things you hate about GS
Originally Posted by dsnowgs4
I just think its ironic that all the "items" on our list would make this car "perfect". Apparently Lexus is close with their "relentless pursute of perfection" because our complaints are kinda lame when you take a step back and look at them.
Well here is my list.
1) No way to select 1st in E-Shift mode (for GS400s)
2) No ski pass through or folding rear seats. (Apparently we are to use our other vehicle to haul stuff).
3) I agree with the stock suspension problem.
4) Headlight condensation.
5) I dont have any rattles and I have 80k miles.. What are u guys doing? Off roading your cars?
6) Stock GEARING is way to tall.... 4th and 5th are too tall for my likes.. I really dont need to get to 150 I would rather get to 120-130 faster.
BTW.... our crapy stock brakes that people have mentioned before, managed to stopped the Motor Trend GS400 in 112 feet from 60 (1998 test). That is as good or better than the recent tests I have seen for the Ferarri 430 and 360 modena. I think that makes them pretty useful.. (however I agree they could be better).
Well here is my list.
1) No way to select 1st in E-Shift mode (for GS400s)
2) No ski pass through or folding rear seats. (Apparently we are to use our other vehicle to haul stuff).
3) I agree with the stock suspension problem.
4) Headlight condensation.
5) I dont have any rattles and I have 80k miles.. What are u guys doing? Off roading your cars?
6) Stock GEARING is way to tall.... 4th and 5th are too tall for my likes.. I really dont need to get to 150 I would rather get to 120-130 faster.
BTW.... our crapy stock brakes that people have mentioned before, managed to stopped the Motor Trend GS400 in 112 feet from 60 (1998 test). That is as good or better than the recent tests I have seen for the Ferarri 430 and 360 modena. I think that makes them pretty useful.. (however I agree they could be better).
Lead Lap
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 430
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From: Atlanta, GA
I only have a few gripes, a couple of which have been previously mentioned...
1) Coin holder is pretty much useless. It's almost impossible to get exact change without pulling most of the contents out and I love when you open the tray door and the change falls out everywhere.
2) The lack of a single CD slot in the dash. It sucks having to go into the glove box, especially while cruising on the interstate. BTW, how many people still listen to cassettes anyway?
3) The quality of the paint. The colors are beautiful and deep, but the durability is the pits. This car is a magnet for rock chips. I didn't get a clear bra right away and I am paying for it.
As for some of the other complaints, I guess I'm pretty fortunate. I am assuming the 430s got the new steering ECU, so that's not a problem for me. The stock ride height isn't an issue either, as most of us change the suspension out anyways. No rattles yet (fingers crossed), but I'm sure 20s and a drop in ride height will bring those out soon enough.
All in all, not much to complain about. Simply put, it's the best car I've ever owned and I still grin every time I stomp on the gas.
1) Coin holder is pretty much useless. It's almost impossible to get exact change without pulling most of the contents out and I love when you open the tray door and the change falls out everywhere.
2) The lack of a single CD slot in the dash. It sucks having to go into the glove box, especially while cruising on the interstate. BTW, how many people still listen to cassettes anyway?
3) The quality of the paint. The colors are beautiful and deep, but the durability is the pits. This car is a magnet for rock chips. I didn't get a clear bra right away and I am paying for it.
As for some of the other complaints, I guess I'm pretty fortunate. I am assuming the 430s got the new steering ECU, so that's not a problem for me. The stock ride height isn't an issue either, as most of us change the suspension out anyways. No rattles yet (fingers crossed), but I'm sure 20s and a drop in ride height will bring those out soon enough.
All in all, not much to complain about. Simply put, it's the best car I've ever owned and I still grin every time I stomp on the gas.
Lexus Champion
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,854
Likes: 0
From: IL
1. Steering feel - or lack thereof
2. Handling
3. Lack of stability on the highway when near trucks
4. Sluggish throttle response
5. Wood steering wheel
6. Heated seats - or should I say one level sometimes they get warm attempt at heated seats
7. Door handles (ok, I'm getting picky here, but I'm trying to get to 10!)
8. Autolock if you don't open the doors quick enough after hitting the unlock - even if they were unlocked to begin with
9. OEM tires
10. Chrome trim (like I said, I was trying to get to 10!)
The first 6 are my biggest complaints however.
2. Handling
3. Lack of stability on the highway when near trucks
4. Sluggish throttle response
5. Wood steering wheel
6. Heated seats - or should I say one level sometimes they get warm attempt at heated seats
7. Door handles (ok, I'm getting picky here, but I'm trying to get to 10!)
8. Autolock if you don't open the doors quick enough after hitting the unlock - even if they were unlocked to begin with
9. OEM tires
10. Chrome trim (like I said, I was trying to get to 10!)
The first 6 are my biggest complaints however.
ok it's official. there is a coin holder?! where is it, someone please tell me or show a pic @_@ i have never seen any coin holder on the gs... i got it for the is3 and the sc430, but not the gs @_@
Originally Posted by rominl
ok it's official. there is a coin holder?! where is it, someone please tell me or show a pic @_@ i have never seen any coin holder on the gs... i got it for the is3 and the sc430, but not the gs @_@
I'm amazed there's something about the GS you don't know.
Pole Position
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,124
Likes: 40
From: California
Here is my dislike list:
1. Headlight condensation
2. Luke warm seat heaters
3. Panel sunroof rattle
4. Steering vibration
5. Non-matched lighting between Radio and Optitron gauges
6. The lack of a single CD slot in the dash
7. Stock rear truck spoiler
8. Cab forward type design, perfer the longated nose a SC
9. Curb weight, again light compared to the SC.
10. Lack of Keyless range
1. Headlight condensation
2. Luke warm seat heaters
3. Panel sunroof rattle
4. Steering vibration
5. Non-matched lighting between Radio and Optitron gauges
6. The lack of a single CD slot in the dash
7. Stock rear truck spoiler
8. Cab forward type design, perfer the longated nose a SC
9. Curb weight, again light compared to the SC.
10. Lack of Keyless range
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
OK Henry, no picture but it's easy enough to describe. It's above the park brake handle and to the right of the mirror control pad. It's just a plain flat unmarked panel you have to push in to have it open.
I'm amazed there's something about the GS you don't know.
I'm amazed there's something about the GS you don't know.
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OK let's see what do I 'hate' about a STOCK 2nd gen GS... (hate is too strong for me though)
- Handling is too soft, too floaty, and leaves car sitting much too high.
- Sunshade defect (ends up slipping back and rattling over time, but Henry now has a fix)
- Car seems to have less insulation from road noise than ES, LS
- Headlights shouldn't trap moisture
- Center armrest leather gets a depression in it from my elbow
- Um, um...
- Handling is too soft, too floaty, and leaves car sitting much too high.
- Sunshade defect (ends up slipping back and rattling over time, but Henry now has a fix
)- Car seems to have less insulation from road noise than ES, LS
- Headlights shouldn't trap moisture
- Center armrest leather gets a depression in it from my elbow
- Um, um...
Originally Posted by rominl
ummm i know that one, but it's just a blank empty compartment? i don't recall seeing slots or so for coils?
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,561
Likes: 0
From: New York
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
OK Henry, no picture but it's easy enough to describe. It's above the park brake handle and to the right of the mirror control pad. It's just a plain flat unmarked panel you have to push in to have it open.
I'm amazed there's something about the GS you don't know.
I'm amazed there's something about the GS you don't know.
Rookie
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
From: Auburn, AL
Originally Posted by Cadd
Get outta here! There's an opening there??? I swore I heard rattles coming from that area (I thought it was either the parking brake lever or something loose). The next time I drive it, I'll check to see if the previous owner left me a gift
i hate
1. headlight washers - they are so stupid they don't really work and they look HIDEOUS on my front bumper. oh well, its worth sacrificing for a canadian GS for the price i paid on this car!!
Originally Posted by Cadd
Get outta here! There's an opening there??? I swore I heard rattles coming from that area (I thought it was either the parking brake lever or something loose). The next time I drive it, I'll check to see if the previous owner left me a gift
Give it a push and see what the surprise is.