things you hate about GS
Pole Position
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From: Utah
Originally Posted by GStateOM
1: stock suspension. It makes the car ride like it's more of a fast tank than a sports sedan. Handling could be better too.
2: The infamous hesitation when you step on the gas.
2: The infamous hesitation when you step on the gas.
1. Transmission fluid flush with Toyota T IV fluid.
2. Change ECT power mode to "power".
You would think that changing the ECT mode to power would change my gas mileage, but it has not noticeably changed it. I absolutely love the power mode. The car now drives and shifts as it should have all along.
Driver School Candidate
Joined: Aug 2001
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From: Chicago
Things I hate:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the lack of lateral support and good thigh support in the driver's seat. This really becomes a problem once the handling is tightened up.
No pass through to the trunk
Loose change holder
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the lack of lateral support and good thigh support in the driver's seat. This really becomes a problem once the handling is tightened up.
No pass through to the trunk
Loose change holder
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: New York
Originally Posted by matjen
Things I hate:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the lack of lateral support and good thigh support in the driver's seat. This really becomes a problem once the handling is tightened up.
No pass through to the trunk
Loose change holder
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the lack of lateral support and good thigh support in the driver's seat. This really becomes a problem once the handling is tightened up.
No pass through to the trunk
Loose change holder
Loose change holder? Funny, mine has one next to the dimmer switch for the interior lights. Took me a week to find it
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,387
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From: New York
lets see....
1) stock brakes suck
2) annoying hard to pinpoint rattles
3) stock handling
4) stock steering
5) vibration I CANNOT get rid of, that isn't always there either
6) condensing headlights that made me buy new ones
1) stock brakes suck
2) annoying hard to pinpoint rattles
3) stock handling
4) stock steering
5) vibration I CANNOT get rid of, that isn't always there either
6) condensing headlights that made me buy new ones
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Lexus Champion
Joined: Nov 2003
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From: Florida
Mine is a 2002, no rattles.
But I hate the change holder (has to one of the worst I've ever seen) and the dry cleaning hooks (might hold 2 shirts at best). I always have to use the leather handle piece and it's a pain getting a large set of clothes on hangers off of it.
Never felt the stock steering or suspension as mine came L-tuned.
The only other thing I hate is that my lease ends in December and I am going to have to get rid of the car. Of course I'll move onto something else, but I know I will really miss this car. So far it has been the best car I have ever owned or leased.
But I hate the change holder (has to one of the worst I've ever seen) and the dry cleaning hooks (might hold 2 shirts at best). I always have to use the leather handle piece and it's a pain getting a large set of clothes on hangers off of it.
Never felt the stock steering or suspension as mine came L-tuned.
The only other thing I hate is that my lease ends in December and I am going to have to get rid of the car. Of course I'll move onto something else, but I know I will really miss this car. So far it has been the best car I have ever owned or leased.
GX and 2IS Moderator
Joined: Feb 2001
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From: New York
GS - what I hate
Hate is kind of a strong word, but here goes:
1) first and foremost - No manual tranny
2) steering shimmy - but it's hit or miss - could be flatspots from sitting too long or could be wheel balancing/alignment issue comes and goes.
3) radio reception - granted my tinted windows may have made it worse (cut antenna or something), but terrible nonetheless
4) stock mufflers too quiet for using the e-shift with windows closed - if you have 300 ponies under the hood - you wanna hear them sing
5) unmatched lighting between radio and Optitron gauges
6) Cassette player in radio instead of single disc or even better - Mini Disc.
7) stock suspension - height and softness - at least need a sport option (thank you L-Tuned)
That's probably all of my complaints.
1) first and foremost - No manual tranny
2) steering shimmy - but it's hit or miss - could be flatspots from sitting too long or could be wheel balancing/alignment issue comes and goes.
3) radio reception - granted my tinted windows may have made it worse (cut antenna or something), but terrible nonetheless
4) stock mufflers too quiet for using the e-shift with windows closed - if you have 300 ponies under the hood - you wanna hear them sing
5) unmatched lighting between radio and Optitron gauges
6) Cassette player in radio instead of single disc or even better - Mini Disc.
7) stock suspension - height and softness - at least need a sport option (thank you L-Tuned)
That's probably all of my complaints.
Lexus Champion
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From: Florida
I agree on the manual tranny option and the add'l single CD concept rather than always having to remove the 6 CD holder from the glove box. It would be nice to have both so you can test new CD's before placing them in the pack.
Originally Posted by Johnny Mo
Hate is kind of a strong word, but here goes:
1) first and foremost - No manual tranny
6) Cassette player in radio instead of single disc or even better - Mini Disc.
1) first and foremost - No manual tranny
6) Cassette player in radio instead of single disc or even better - Mini Disc.
Lexus Test Driver
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From: New York
Where the hell is the coin holder? I didn't even know the GS has one! I just use a film holder to hold my quarters.
1 - Steering wheel vibration after I hit a pothole. But the vibration isn't instantaneous. There's a lag. It feels like a 1 second lag. After both the front & rear wheels hit the pothole, the vibration comes.
Does anyone know the logic of not allowing the trunk to pass through to the rear seats? How am I going to fit my snowboards in the car???
1 - Steering wheel vibration after I hit a pothole. But the vibration isn't instantaneous. There's a lag. It feels like a 1 second lag. After both the front & rear wheels hit the pothole, the vibration comes.
Does anyone know the logic of not allowing the trunk to pass through to the rear seats? How am I going to fit my snowboards in the car???
Originally Posted by Cadd
Where the hell is the coin holder? I didn't even know the GS has one! I just use a film holder to hold my quarters.
1 - Steering wheel vibration after I hit a pothole. But the vibration isn't instantaneous. There's a lag. It feels like a 1 second lag. After both the front & rear wheels hit the pothole, the vibration comes.
Does anyone know the logic of not allowing the trunk to pass through to the rear seats? How am I going to fit my snowboards in the car???
1 - Steering wheel vibration after I hit a pothole. But the vibration isn't instantaneous. There's a lag. It feels like a 1 second lag. After both the front & rear wheels hit the pothole, the vibration comes.
Does anyone know the logic of not allowing the trunk to pass through to the rear seats? How am I going to fit my snowboards in the car???
Pole Position
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Colorado
Close to Perfection?
I just think its ironic that all the "items" on our list would make this car "perfect". Apparently Lexus is close with their "relentless pursute of perfection" because our complaints are kinda lame when you take a step back and look at them.
Well here is my list.
1) No way to select 1st in E-Shift mode (for GS400s)
2) No ski pass through or folding rear seats. (Apparently we are to use our other vehicle to haul stuff).
3) I agree with the stock suspension problem.
4) Headlight condensation.
5) I dont have any rattles and I have 80k miles.. What are u guys doing? Off roading your cars?
6) Stock GEARING is way to tall.... 4th and 5th are too tall for my likes.. I really dont need to get to 150 I would rather get to 120-130 faster.
BTW.... our crapy stock brakes that people have mentioned before, managed to stopped the Motor Trend GS400 in 112 feet from 60 (1998 test). That is as good or better than the recent tests I have seen for the Ferarri 430 and 360 modena. I think that makes them pretty useful.. (however I agree they could be better).
Well here is my list.
1) No way to select 1st in E-Shift mode (for GS400s)
2) No ski pass through or folding rear seats. (Apparently we are to use our other vehicle to haul stuff).
3) I agree with the stock suspension problem.
4) Headlight condensation.
5) I dont have any rattles and I have 80k miles.. What are u guys doing? Off roading your cars?
6) Stock GEARING is way to tall.... 4th and 5th are too tall for my likes.. I really dont need to get to 150 I would rather get to 120-130 faster.
BTW.... our crapy stock brakes that people have mentioned before, managed to stopped the Motor Trend GS400 in 112 feet from 60 (1998 test). That is as good or better than the recent tests I have seen for the Ferarri 430 and 360 modena. I think that makes them pretty useful.. (however I agree they could be better).