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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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That E-Latch works pretty well in our NX, once you get used to it. My wife and I really don’t mind it - but it’s definitely an adjustment in thinking. Plus you have to explain to new passengers.
Agree can most likely get used to the latch. But when you get a loaner from the service dept and they have to tell you how to get in and out of the car that should have been a red flag especially for a new designed car. This is the way it is headed now anyway so eventually will be the norm.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 10:48 AM
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I was surprised when I saw the new version last night - first thought was that it reminded me of a Kia Stinger or aimed at that audience. I showed it to my wife (who drives our current and previous ES) and she loves it and said "I want one of those". I personally don't. I was put off by the styling, and then when I read that it has a CVT transmission, it becomes a hard no, not interested. I read recently where Nissan/Infiniti is moving back to regular transmissions from CVTs due to how many customers dislike them.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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Lexus newsroom is the place to read about this. Split screen is back and says native navigation which tells me map data should be within the system and not cloud based but sure there is a subscription there somewhere. Length 6.5 in and wheelbase 3 in more. Very few pictures.

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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 11:02 AM
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These are the normal trims, I reckon there are 550e and 500h will come later, exclusively as "F SPORT PERFORMANCE"
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KMiles
I was surprised when I saw the new version last night - first thought was that it reminded me of a Kia Stinger or aimed at that audience. I showed it to my wife (who drives our current and previous ES) and she loves it and said "I want one of those". I personally don't. I was put off by the styling, and then when I read that it has a CVT transmission, it becomes a hard no, not interested. I read recently where Nissan/Infiniti is moving back to regular transmissions from CVTs due to how many customers dislike them.
The Lexus eCVT is NOT a Nissan CVT. Drive one and you'll be amazed.

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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 11:34 AM
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The Lexus eCVT is NOT a Nissan CVT. Drive one and you'll be amazed.
I always get a chuckle from those that complain about the CVT especially not being as smooth and as quiet as a regular transmisssion. So shifting through 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 gears is smoother than no shifting at all. I would never go back to a non CVT transmission.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 11:48 AM
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Wife just asked me what I am laughing at
Yeah Fred, me too... LMAO
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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Explanation from a good Japanese channel



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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 12:22 PM
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I see where they're going with the 8ES. Even without seeing the reveal next week, I don't think there's much they can do to interest me. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I strongly doubt that will happen.
My expectations were low to begin with. The reveal actually falls a bit short of my expectations.

Mechanically, it's what I expected. EVs and HEVs. No PHEV or ICE.

Aesthetically, it's a disappointment. I like the silhouette, but that zig-zag gash in the door panels is not for me. Why do some car companies think that an EV has to scream "look I'm an EV" in their body design. I think a more modest and subtle EV style would have said "elegance," whereas that lightening bolt on each door look crass. And the interior looks like a major step down.

Some of the AI fakes were way better looking than what Lexus came up with, IMO.

I'll withhold my final judgement until I drive one.

Looks like I'll be waiting for the 9ES.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 703
This was decided way back in 2021. And all the BEV batteries for the ES (as with the higher spec BZ4x and RZ) will be made in Himeji battery plant (Toyota now fully owns Prime Planet Energy). So it makes sense not to ship components all over the place. Himeji plant is already ramping up capacity for mass production to 13GWh.
And all the best-sellers in North America will be using batteries produced in North Carolina which really helps on the tariff fronts.

Well played Toyota, well played.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
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My expectations were low to begin with. The reveal actually falls a bit short of my expectations.

Mechanically, it's what I expected. EVs and HEVs. No PHEV or ICE.
There will be lots of PHEVs in the N. America lineup going forward.

The new PHEV battery has 100 mile range. I see that as a game-changer.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 01:00 PM
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This is first ES that I would not buy.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NicestRide
There will be lots of PHEVs in the N. America lineup going forward.

The new PHEV battery has 100 mile range. I see that as a game-changer.
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I always get a chuckle from those that complain about the CVT especially not being as smooth and as quiet as a regular transmisssion. So shifting through 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 gears is smoother than no shifting at all. I would never go back to a non CVT transmission.
I have to say I'll probably never go back to a conventional trans after driving the RXh for the last year.
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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 01:36 PM
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This video has some better views including the interior.


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Old Apr 23, 2025 | 01:43 PM
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Absolutely hate these AI voiced derivative videos. All this footage was stolen from other content creators.

Anyways, Toyota CVT is good. Their hybrid platform is good. Their BEVs are far behind the competition in terms of acceleration and range. The Tesla/BYD like infotainment will be something way different for their demographic, but they need/want to target a younger market.
The dimensions are odd. It's tall like the Crown, and long like the LS. I believe this brings it from mid-sized to full-sized sedan, or psuedo crossover?

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