8th generation ES!
Perhaps, but given there'll be a 300h, it's going to share platforms and therefore be compromised as a BEV.
Once you see the engineering compromises (and there are TONS) that are made when you share platforms between EV and gas and as a result, how bad of an EV results from such sharing, you can't unsee it. At that point you get almost none of the benefits of an EV other than to say "my car doesn't use gas" but that's about it.
Once you see the engineering compromises (and there are TONS) that are made when you share platforms between EV and gas and as a result, how bad of an EV results from such sharing, you can't unsee it. At that point you get almost none of the benefits of an EV other than to say "my car doesn't use gas" but that's about it.
it'll bother sales when one EV can't compete with a pure EV because it doesn't have XYZ features of pure EV. we're seeing this happening now with the sales charts of EVs. heck even pure EVs are a far extremely distant 2nd place in terms of pure US sales. so being a compromised EV has exponentially more difficult challenges.
also tech. the #1 most important factor in their EV purchase is technology. these shared platform cars keep using recycled old legacy contract technology so it's an EV with gas car technologies. old school contracts. vs. developing new stuff from scratch customers want.
BMW however has been able to utilize their multi powertrain CLAR platform approach and is actually moving units out of all the legacy mfgs with as little magic math as possible.
I think shifting to a pure EV platform will need to be pushed out further along with recent shifts in the global regulatory environment.
Last edited by coolsaber; Apr 16, 2025 at 11:08 AM.
But don’t worry, the US will be last of the main markets to receive it due to tariffs. These ones are all assembled in Japan.
Lexus, is following the same what BMW proved the only way the people want, the traditional cars we know just with an EV variant, they will be stupid to experience with the pure EV stuff after the results we saw with BMW EV strategy vs the others.
Last edited by MADI; Apr 16, 2025 at 01:40 PM.
Maybe Lexus will rethink moving ES production out of US. This market and infrastructure is nowhere ready for EV mass buying. Especially if gas prices goes under $2/gallon which I believe will happen. Also Japan is in talks with administration today about tariffs so hopefully it can be worked out.
What tech are we talking about here?
Do the customers want the bleeding edge stuff that is not tested long enough and will break after the warranty is out?
Or do the customers want something that is tested for years?
This is why I like Japanese.. Instead of starting from scratch and throwing everything they have done in the bin, they improve slowly which makes these systems more reliable in the long run.
Do the customers want the bleeding edge stuff that is not tested long enough and will break after the warranty is out?
Or do the customers want something that is tested for years?
This is why I like Japanese.. Instead of starting from scratch and throwing everything they have done in the bin, they improve slowly which makes these systems more reliable in the long run.
Last edited by es250fsport; Apr 16, 2025 at 04:10 PM.
Looks really nice.
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/04/2026-lexus-es-to-debut-on-april-23-as-a-global-flagship-is-the-ls-about-to-get-axed/
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/04/2026-lexus-es-to-debut-on-april-23-as-a-global-flagship-is-the-ls-about-to-get-axed/
Last edited by Freds430; Apr 16, 2025 at 05:27 PM.
Maybe Lexus will rethink moving ES production out of US. This market and infrastructure is nowhere ready for EV mass buying. Especially if gas prices goes under $2/gallon which I believe will happen. Also Japan is in talks with administration today about tariffs so hopefully it can be worked out.














