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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Why do they have the old shifter when every other Honda uses buttons? I prefer the old shifter but its odd...
You just answered your own question. Many people don't like buttons, zig-zags, or twist-dials for the shifter. Consumer Reports doesn't, either.
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You just answered your own question. Many people don't like buttons, zig-zags, or twist-dials for the shifter. Consumer Reports doesn't, either.
Except Honda is still using the push button shifter on the bulk of their models. Had they gone back to a regular shifter for their lineup that would be different.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Except Honda is still using the push button shifter on the bulk of their models. Had they gone back to a regular shifter for their lineup that would be different.

The Accord (and its huge success over the years) has always been marketed to a rather conservative group of buyers.....although usually not quite as conservative as Camry buyers. Still, they probably prefer the old fashioned fore/aft PRNDL lever over the newer, more confusing gimmick-shifters. And there is good reason for that. It dates to the 1960s, and, due to Ralph Nader's safety-efforts and Congressional action, became Federal legislation for new vehicles after 1968, and was the standard that many millions of drivers got used to. Most of the American auto industry, on their own, had already converted by then to PRNDL, although some GM column-shift-levers remained PNDLR until well into the '60s. (My Dad had a used '62 Cadillac with a PNDLR shifter). PNDLR was riskier and more likely to damage the transmission, because Reverse was right next to low, and if one was not very careful, could rather easily overshoot and select R while still moving forward. PRNDL was much safer, because it placed Reverse in between Park and Neutral.......and less-likely to be accidentally engaged.

Today, of course, computer-interlocks help prevent dangerous or bone-headed shifts, which is a good feature, but, it still helps to have a standardized pattern, especially when more than one person will be driving the vehicle, and may not be used to newer gimmicks.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 07:33 PM
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It’ll be interesting to see if it still makes Car and Driver’s 10 best list.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Except Honda is still using the push button shifter on the bulk of their models. Had they gone back to a regular shifter for their lineup that would be different.
Cost cutting is why they went back.
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
It’ll be interesting to see if it still makes Car and Driver’s 10 best list.

Yeah, like the Mazda Miata and BMW 3-series, the Accord was one of C&D's 10-Best for years. They have always liked it....although the newer ones don't seem to be built as well as Hondas were for many years when they had a bulletproof reputation.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Cost cutting is why they went back.

Sometimes cost-cutting probably works for the better. This seems to be one of them.
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Cost cutting is why they went back.
But why not do that with every model?
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But why not do that with every model?
I would guess there are some micro chips involved with the electronic type.
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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Old Nov 14, 2022 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I would guess there are some micro chips involved with the electronic type.

Possibly, but even conventional fore/aft PRNDL shift-levers also use electronic-actuation......they are not directly connected to the transmisison by cables or a mechanical linkage any more. Those days are long gone.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:56 AM
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I've always waited, with great anticipation, every time Honda introduces a new Accord. This was no different. When the 10th gen was introduced I had mixed feelings about it. Over time, it grew on me. Whenever I see a clean, well maintained Sport with 19's, it just looks stunning.

This new Accord, I feel, is pretty nice. I like pretty much everything about it, styling wise. I've been a Honda loyalist for many years. I'm currently driving my 13th, a 2017 EX-L V6. It really bothered me when Honda ditched the V6 in the Accord, but at least they kept the performance up with the 2.0t. Now, I'm really bothered that the 2.0t is gone.

600 miles on a tank of gas? I get that consistently with my V6. Of course, I drive it like no one else, all highway, no hills/mountains. My record mileage was 39mpg, while my record distance was 657. On the highway, VCM is everything.

I plan on driving my current Accord for the next ten+ years, at which point I'm sure I'll be forced into an EV. No problem.
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Old Feb 7, 2023 | 03:40 PM
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Savagegeese putting out a pretty candid review, he's a Honda superfan but seems rather underwhelmed.

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Old Feb 7, 2023 | 04:25 PM
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Motor Trend's review was pretty brutual.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...-drive-review/

Review: The 2023 Honda Accord Is Fine, If You Like This Kind of Thing

The new Accord takes two steps forward—and one big step back.

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Old Feb 7, 2023 | 04:48 PM
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Here is Car and Driver's take on the Accord:
  • HIGHS: Attractive new styling, more ways to spec the hybrid powertrain, spacious cabin.
  • LOWS: Punchy 2.0-liter turbo no longer offered, we miss the stick shift, all-wheel drive is not an option.
  • VERDICT: This excellent new 2023 Accord is merely an evolution of the last one, but why fix what's not broken?
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