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Old Jun 8, 2022 | 12:53 PM
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According to the Institute for Energy Research's calculations, the U.S. actually sits on 1.442 trillion barrels of recoverable deposits.

You need to tell the whole story, not what fits your narrative.
Sorry to say, that's not a legit website. I even get a security warning from our firewall, which blocks it. And please don't tell me that's a conspiracy, because our firewall has nothing to do with the Government


Old Jun 8, 2022 | 12:56 PM
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Folks heading into debate and politics territory and folks will be booted or thread closed.

If you've already been recently warned for discussing politics, I am going to suspend CL accounts for a week. Not going to keep asking.
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edit - others already asked the same questions.

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Old Jun 8, 2022 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
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According to the Institute for Energy Research's calculations, the U.S. actually sits on 1.442 trillion barrels of recoverable deposits.

You need to tell the whole story, not what fits your narrative.
It's a "company" with 3 employees. They had to change their domain name for some reason, hmmm...
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These conspiracies are getting out of hand. If people are blaming EVs for the rise in gas prices, its a severely misplaced assertion. EVs didn't increase gas prices....the higher gas prices are helping to drive EV adoption. Its the complete reverse. Most people that bought Teslas a couple years back weren't even considering gas prices as the driving factor. It was brand, performance, environmental awareness, and image that drove Teslas growth. I'd still are argue that the primary reason for a lot of people switching isn't even gas prices or environment...its just that EVs drive really well and are way more convenient to own for daily commuting duties. Blaming EVs for gas prices is highly misplaced.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
These conspiracies are getting out of hand. If people are blaming EVs for the rise in gas prices, its a severely misplaced assertion. EVs didn't increase gas prices....the higher gas prices are helping to drive EV adoption. Its the complete reverse. Most people that bought Teslas a couple years back weren't even considering gas prices as the driving factor. It was brand, performance, environmental awareness, and image that drove Teslas growth. I'd still are argue that the primary reason for a lot of people switching isn't even gas prices or environment...its just that EVs drive really well and are way more convenient to own for daily commuting duties. Blaming EVs for gas prices is highly misplaced.
I don't think they are directly blaming gas prices on EV's, I think some believe that "artificially" through dubious means forcing the rise of gas prices are the direct results of EV's increase in adoption...in other words to drive people like cattle (sheep is probably a more accepted animal) to go out and buy them and thus kill the V8 and put ICE out of business. That's an easily popped balloon because all the Tesla owners going back to 2012 bought theirs when gas prices were normal, all the Leaf and Bolt owners the same. I bought my Polestar in December when gas prices were normal. It's an argument that has no standing, and yet here we are, 2022
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If you really want a buttery smooth V8 and nothing made today fits the bill buy used. Dump a bunch of money into the car if you have to still way cheaper than new. This whole thing strikes me as the biggest first world problem ever there are so many choices, nearly unlimited.
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If you really want a buttery smooth V8 and nothing made today fits the bill buy used. Dump a bunch of money into the car if you have to still way cheaper than new. This whole thing strikes me as the biggest first world problem ever there are so many choices, nearly unlimited.
I forgot all about my V8 desire when my buddy launched his P100D for me. Oh my...
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Originally Posted by Mike728
What's your definition of obsessed? I can't remember the last time I brought it up on the forum.

As far as longevity, I would bet anything that a modern engine will outlast anything that came out back in the day. Maintenance was a constant battle, between 3k mile oil changes and 12k mile tune-ups, etc... If you didn't live it, you really shouldn't be talking about it.
I’ll take that bet and give you a 50,000 mile head start even. I’ve been driving since 1998 and “maintenance hasn’t been a constant battle.” 1998 qualifies for “back in the day”. You think the new 3.4 Toyota ttV6 will outlast the previous NA V8s or V6s?
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You think the new 3.4 Toyota ttV6 will outlast the previous NA V8s or V6s?
Highly doubt it. In fairness nothing Toyota or Lexus makes now compares to their halcyon days.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
....” 1998 qualifies for “back in the day”....
LOL, youngsters...
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LOL, youngsters...
So you agree with what we're saying. Good, figured you would.
Old Jun 8, 2022 | 01:55 PM
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I don’t hate EV’s at all. They’re all cars to me. I would love to have a Tesla Model S Plaid or Porsche Taycan but even lower end electric cars are out of my price range. I won’t be able to afford anything anytime soon and I’m okay with that.

They are becoming really appealing with the current crazy gas prices right now. If I had a cheap, fuel efficient car right now it wouldn’t be so bad. I considered selling my GS to get a cheap Civic/Corolla but now everything is priced way too high.
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So I decided to take a little break and go on the Polestar forum to get away from all this bickering and fighting. I see this interesting thread about AC usage VS opening the windows. And what do you know...lots of bickering and fighting, back and forth insults between people who opens their windows vs who uses AC. Who even knew these two camps existed? Oh well, I could actually do some real work....
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Originally Posted by Kira X
I don’t hate EV’s at all. They’re all cars to me. I would love to have a Tesla Model S Plaid or Porsche Taycan but even lower end electric cars are out of my price range. I won’t be able to afford anything anytime soon and I’m okay with that.

They are becoming really appealing with the current crazy gas prices right now. If I had a cheap, fuel efficient car right now it wouldn’t be so bad. I considered selling my GS to get a cheap Civic/Corolla but now everything is priced way too high.
That's the main problem I have with them. Yeah I can get a used Leaf for 20 grand but it's junk in every aspect, gets 70 miles of range and is tiny. There's nothing out there right now affordable for people. Some of us don't want giant car payments for years.



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