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Probably. But I have no idea. The 4R are the same lights across all models… but new Highlander are basic LED halogen reflectors for the lower trim and premium for the limited or platinum. Something I like about the 4R is that you don’t pay the upcharge.
Your LX must have LEDs?
Your LX must have LEDs?
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Probably. But I have no idea. The 4R are the same lights across all models… but new Highlander are basic LED halogen reflectors for the lower trim and premium for the limited or platinum. Something I like about the 4R is that you don’t pay the upcharge.
Your LX must have LEDs?
Your LX must have LEDs?
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‘wow. Didn’t know the lx used swivel. Or xenon. Thanks. Learn something new every day
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Totally depends on the optics but LEDs are less complex and higher output on the extreme end. I prefer the light coverage/smoothness of my 460 to any other car I've driven since it just appears to light up the road 300 yards out totally evenly and has flawless tracking due to the all direction mounts.
However the matrix LED system on the Audi allows me to run high beams at all times so it has advantages that are not possible with HIDs, HIDs have the advantage of fewer actual emitters vs a bank of 50+ LEDs that are essentially unrepairable and cost $2000 a side to replace.
Again though, it mostly comes down to the optics used for any light source for terms of coverage, smoothness, range, and spread. I have personally found that to be the most critical factor, you can have a stupid powerful LED in a 90s style static reflector get trounced by a 1/4 output halogen in a gimbal mounted projector with auto cutoffs. The source of the light doesn't matter nearly as much as how effectively it's out down on the road, the 460 is so impressive to me since it is uniform out to 300 yards somehow. No hotspots, no bleed, just like streetlights all the way out and out ranges my rifles lights somehow.
However the matrix LED system on the Audi allows me to run high beams at all times so it has advantages that are not possible with HIDs, HIDs have the advantage of fewer actual emitters vs a bank of 50+ LEDs that are essentially unrepairable and cost $2000 a side to replace.
Again though, it mostly comes down to the optics used for any light source for terms of coverage, smoothness, range, and spread. I have personally found that to be the most critical factor, you can have a stupid powerful LED in a 90s style static reflector get trounced by a 1/4 output halogen in a gimbal mounted projector with auto cutoffs. The source of the light doesn't matter nearly as much as how effectively it's out down on the road, the 460 is so impressive to me since it is uniform out to 300 yards somehow. No hotspots, no bleed, just like streetlights all the way out and out ranges my rifles lights somehow.
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The LS and LX have omni-directional gimbals that follow both the road up/down and your turning inputs. It's one of the best systems I've used in terms of where you look there is consistent light at all times even in residential turns with tinted windows. You get a 30* swing instantly in a 90* turn that allows vehicle path to stay perfectly lit, my A8 doesn't do this and instead just turns on 10 LEDs on that side. Not nearly as effective and has a visible seam to the light
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Yes.....today's headlight switches can be annoying, with half a dozen different settings to figure out. The auto-dim feature, however, is nice, although I don't often need it under the conditions I drive, particularly in the D.C. summer when it stays light until almost 9 PM.
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Totally depends on the optics but LEDs are less complex and higher output on the extreme end. I prefer the light coverage/smoothness of my 460 to any other car I've driven since it just appears to light up the road 300 yards out totally evenly and has flawless tracking due to the all direction mounts.
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They fail like crazy unless it's on a Lexus, very common to have them stuck pointing way low or high. That's why the Germans went to LED arrays instead, no moving parts, I would argue the swivel is still very advanced and almost nothing has a system like that. It shocks people when you show it to them most of the time
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They fail like crazy unless it's on a Lexus, very common to have them stuck pointing way low or high. That's why the Germans went to LED arrays instead, no moving parts, I would argue the swivel is still very advanced and almost nothing has a system like that. It shocks people when you show it to them most of the time
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I think I figured out what was happening. The auto high beams were on, and when you switch the lights on "ON" the high beams come on, because the stalk is pressed in for the auto high beams. She was thinking they were on when she had them in the parking light setting or she was pressing the fog light button or something.
I'll agree wth that. Sounds reasonable.
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In other news, those who are shorting Tesla bet wrong: https://electrek.co/2022/07/22/tesla...s-are-hurting/
Polestar stock on the other hand, not doing too well despite sales being way up
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It's actually true, as reported in Bloomberg news: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-mexico-border
In other news, those who are shorting Tesla bet wrong: https://electrek.co/2022/07/22/tesla...s-are-hurting/
