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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 07:09 AM
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It’s annoying I agree. They call you because that gives them the best chance to close you. I always laugh when they find my number even when I don’t give It.
I'm sorry but that's creepy.

I don't like getting calls from people I never gave my number to. Lol

At the same time I don't negotiate anything by text or email.

If I want to talk I give my number or call or show up. Lol
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I'm sorry but that's creepy.

I don't like getting calls from people I never gave my number to. Lol

At the same time I don't negotiate anything by text or email.

If I want to talk I give my number or call or show up. Lol
Oh it’s absolutely creepy and I would never do that. There are data services though where they can easily get all the info about you. We have the same systems. I can look up your estimated income, credit score, address, phone number, what property you own with just your email.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 07:43 AM
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Yeah they'll say something sweet over the phone or text just to get you down there....

I fell for it when I found that Silver Arrow that was here in town (not the one I have). Good thing I passed because it was a POS compared to mine and it was about to go into a bidding war.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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So update on the disappearing salespeople. Followed up with the guy we sat down with in person and drove the van with and asked if he had any headway on the numbers he promised. I reiterated that I would like to do this immediately…nothing.

Emailed back and forth with the other guy yesterday, he was great, got right back to me, got him the VIN for the van we have and the loan number so he could get the payoff, we discussed the lease terms and all, he said last night he would get me numbers first thing this morning…nothing lol.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So update on the disappearing salespeople. Followed up with the guy we sat down with in person and drove the van with and asked if he had any headway on the numbers he promised. I reiterated that I would like to do this immediately…nothing.

Emailed back and forth with the other guy yesterday, he was great, got right back to me, got him the VIN for the van we have and the loan number so he could get the payoff, we discussed the lease terms and all, he said last night he would get me numbers first thing this morning…nothing lol.
Unbelievable! Disappointing too.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 08:53 AM
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Unbelievable! Disappointing too.
and on top of that the Mercedes guy found me a car on the ground that will work, he can get it for me and “can sell it to me for MSRP”. If I’m paying MSRP I’m not buying a car on the ground that doesn’t have everything I want when the 24s come out any day.

The car he found is in Texas and that dealer has 215 S Classes. I might just contact them directly and see if they will work a deal and ship me the car.

Maybe I’ll just buy both cars I have out and say f it lol
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and on top of that the Mercedes guy found me a car on the ground that will work, he can get it for me and “can sell it to me for MSRP”. If I’m paying MSRP I’m not buying a car on the ground that doesn’t have everything I want when the 24s come out any day.

The car he found is in Texas and that dealer has 215 S Classes. I might just contact them directly and see if they will work a deal and ship me the car.

Maybe I’ll just buy both cars I have out and say f it lol
It sounds like the sales prevention departments at both dealerships are doing their jobs lol.
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The car he found is in Texas and that dealer has 215 S Classes. I might just contact them directly and see if they will work a deal and ship me the car.
I would hope that a dealer with $30M in inventory of "last year's flagship" would be willing to deal.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So update on the disappearing salespeople. Followed up with the guy we sat down with in person and drove the van with and asked if he had any headway on the numbers he promised. I reiterated that I would like to do this immediately…nothing.

Emailed back and forth with the other guy yesterday, he was great, got right back to me, got him the VIN for the van we have and the loan number so he could get the payoff, we discussed the lease terms and all, he said last night he would get me numbers first thing this morning…nothing lol.
These people are either on a different time zone or work on island time. lol
It's usually us ghosting them, not the other way around.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 09:39 AM
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It sounds like the sales prevention departments at both dealerships are doing their jobs lol.
They’re clearly very qualified at that lol

Originally Posted by geko29
I would hope that a dealer with $30M in inventory of "last year's flagship" would be willing to deal.
You would certainly think!
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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So I finally heard back from both of them on the Pacifica. $920 a month from one and $905 from the other lol. Terrible. And supposedly thats with $12,000 off the sales price of $62,000...the money factor is .00485 with is the worst MF I have ever seen...that equates to 11.62% interest LOL. As an aside, the MF on the Grand Cherokee is .00079 which equates to 1.9% interest. So you can see what they want to sell.

So, won't be leasing that.

I also went and drove a 760, an i7, and an S580 back to back to back on the same course. Funny story, I walked into BMW and there stands the guy who sold me my S Class lol, he had left MB about a year ago. Apparently the sales manager from the MB dealer also went there. Maybe I can get some service.

First time I have driven the 760. I gotta say, I really like the new 7 series. Even the styling has really grown on me a lot. The interior is without a doubt higher quality and better design than the 223 S Class, although I do still like the S Class outside better, its more conventionally beautiful and I have to be honest, I would miss the three pointed star on the hood. That 7 though is an incredible car...really torn. Overall drivewise I prefer the i7, but the 760 is very close. The S is still slightly softer riding, and its on run flats still. New 7 no longer comes with runflats, so I wouldn't have to replace tires which is a plus. Bowers & Wilkins audio in the 7 is incredible, but if I ordered I would get the 4D in the S which would be great. You can get 7s on the ground with the B&W though...BMW seat massage is also much better than MB. Seats in the BMW are better, dash layout is better, tech is much better.

I drove the 7 and I was like "this is what I want" then the S580, "this is what I want" then I got back in my car "damn this is still great"....ugh...

They're going to send me numbers on the 760 and the i7, I'll share them here. Initial payment on the S580 was $2,450 with a meager $3k off MSRP and somehow not offering me the $10k lease cash I know they have...
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:52 PM
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, I would miss the three pointed star on the hood...
Hahaha! Yes, me too.

And also yep, arguably the best thing about an S-Class is that hood ornament. I totally get it. Really makes the car feel special...
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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yep, arguably the best thing about an S-Class is that hood ornament. I totally get it. Really makes the car feel special...
Yes, I agree. I don't know why the auto industry pretty much dumped hood ornaments, except for the fact that they became a fad for kids to steal. Rolls Royce solved the problem by having a retractable hood ornament that folded down under the hood, under a small door, but that is obviously too expensive for everyday mass-production vehicles.
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Yes, I agree. I don't know why the auto industry pretty much dumped hood ornaments, except for the fact that they became a fad for kids to steal. Rolls Royce solved the problem by having a retractable hood ornament that folded down under the hood, under a small door, but that is obviously too expensive for everyday mass-production vehicles.
Honestly I don't think anyone other than MB/RR/Bentley can pull a hood ornament off anymore, cars are just designed so differently. Out of all of them I like the MB star the best, lol.

But oh yeah I remember them, the Conti we always talk about had one I think, and Caddys had them.... Not Mercedes special but certainly nice, I liked them in the Caddys my Dad had.
Old Sep 27, 2023 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
So I finally heard back from both of them on the Pacifica. $920 a month from one and $905 from the other lol. Terrible. And supposedly thats with $12,000 off the sales price of $62,000...the money factor is .00485 with is the worst MF I have ever seen...that equates to 11.62% interest LOL. As an aside, the MF on the Grand Cherokee is .00079 which equates to 1.9% interest. So you can see what they want to sell.

So, won't be leasing that.

I also went and drove a 760, an i7, and an S580 back to back to back on the same course. Funny story, I walked into BMW and there stands the guy who sold me my S Class lol, he had left MB about a year ago. Apparently the sales manager from the MB dealer also went there. Maybe I can get some service.

First time I have driven the 760. I gotta say, I really like the new 7 series. Even the styling has really grown on me a lot. The interior is without a doubt higher quality and better design than the 223 S Class, although I do still like the S Class outside better, its more conventionally beautiful and I have to be honest, I would miss the three pointed star on the hood. That 7 though is an incredible car...really torn. Overall drivewise I prefer the i7, but the 760 is very close. The S is still slightly softer riding, and its on run flats still. New 7 no longer comes with runflats, so I wouldn't have to replace tires which is a plus. Bowers & Wilkins audio in the 7 is incredible, but if I ordered I would get the 4D in the S which would be great. You can get 7s on the ground with the B&W though...BMW seat massage is also much better than MB. Seats in the BMW are better, dash layout is better, tech is much better.

I drove the 7 and I was like "this is what I want" then the S580, "this is what I want" then I got back in my car "damn this is still great"....ugh...

They're going to send me numbers on the 760 and the i7, I'll share them here. Initial payment on the S580 was $2,450 with a meager $3k off MSRP and somehow not offering me the $10k lease cash I know they have...
$2,450 lease payment on the S580... what does that have the money factor come out to (or what's the interest)? I thought you already had payment info on the i7; perhaps from another dealer..?? If so, what was it? $2,450 is an awful lot of money. I'm not sure I understand the math on that for a 3 year lease - that's $90k in payments on what I assume is a $140k or so car.. so what gives?



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