What makes German auto engineering different than Asian or American engineering
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The weirdest engineering I've seen from a modern vehicle isn't anything from the Germans and Asians, but the Brits. Remember the now-dead Jaguar XJ? Remember how it introduced a supercharged V6 in 2013 or so? Turns out the block is just a V8 with two cylinders sealed off.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
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The weirdest engineering I've seen from a modern vehicle isn't anything from the Germans and Asians, but the Brits. Remember the now-dead Jaguar XJ? Remember how it introduced a supercharged V6 in 2013 or so? Turns out the block is just a V8 with two cylinders sealed off.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
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Without a dedicated terminal, just connecting the negative cable to any grounding point on the car may not allow enough amps to turn the engine over. When connecting directly to the battery, inspect it for cracks or damage, you don't want a potential explosion, or to fry the electrical system of the good car if there is a short inside the dead battery.
Also, when cranking the bad car, the engine in the good car should be shut off, otherwise you run the risk of frying either alternator due to voltage differences, especially if good car has a much bigger alternator, such as when jumping a small econocar with a pick up truck - too much current can kill the alternator in the smaller car.
Also, when cranking the bad car, the engine in the good car should be shut off, otherwise you run the risk of frying either alternator due to voltage differences, especially if good car has a much bigger alternator, such as when jumping a small econocar with a pick up truck - too much current can kill the alternator in the smaller car.
You can't shock yourself with a 12v system, arc the hell out of a tool sure but it's not going to do anything to you.
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The issue is with modern cars its hard to find a non painted metal part under the hood in some sort of proximity to the battery where a cable will reach that can serve as a ground if the engineers hadn't put a ground peg there like they did on the Mercedes and the Chrysler. On the Odyssey, I literally just tapped around with the negative terminal until a bolt caused a spark and used that.
Like I said, I fried a car one time using the negative terminal so I will NEVER do that.
Its funny but in the last month not having jumper cables has been an issue here. My contractor was here and his battery went dead, I had no way to help him, and now this. So, I ordered a set of cables to have in the garage and jump boxes for each car.
Like I said, I fried a car one time using the negative terminal so I will NEVER do that.
Its funny but in the last month not having jumper cables has been an issue here. My contractor was here and his battery went dead, I had no way to help him, and now this. So, I ordered a set of cables to have in the garage and jump boxes for each car.
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It was an old Chevy Cavalier, it’s possible that they were mislabeled, but I doubt it.
As for injury, it’s unlikely but the battery xould
explode, a spark could burn you or damage your eyes. Why not just do it the right way?
As for injury, it’s unlikely but the battery xould
explode, a spark could burn you or damage your eyes. Why not just do it the right way?
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The weirdest engineering I've seen from a modern vehicle isn't anything from the Germans and Asians, but the Brits. Remember the now-dead Jaguar XJ? Remember how it introduced a supercharged V6 in 2013 or so? Turns out the block is just a V8 with two cylinders sealed off.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
There's just something special about the daft yet functional way British cars are engineered. I could write an entire article about those Vickers-era Rolls and Bentleys.
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You have two batteries in the S class?
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Ironically that frankensteined supercharged V6 was actually faster than the supercharged, turbocharged mild hybrid Ingenium I6 that replaced it in all the current JLR products. It's a poetic allegory for Jaguar itself- the more it tried to emulate the Germans, the worse it became as a brand.
It's always amusing to see the discrepancy between what the JDM market got compared to what was imported, especially in the 90s and early 2000s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8V4MR08-Ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8V4MR08-Ps
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Interesting. I’d rather have it in the trunk, than under a seat
I think the LS500 has the positive cable attachment in the front engine compartment just like your S class. But the battery is out back. They. also tell you where to ground the negative, with a diagram. . I’ve always liked that Toyota batteries sometimes have the eye that tell you the status of the battery.
I think the LS500 has the positive cable attachment in the front engine compartment just like your S class. But the battery is out back. They. also tell you where to ground the negative, with a diagram. . I’ve always liked that Toyota batteries sometimes have the eye that tell you the status of the battery.
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I like how the battery for a Porsche is in the front trunk, electrically operated by the way. Makes for quite an experience when your battery is dead. A simple pull string worked great for decades but the Germans had to "improve" it.
Now I get to jack car up, remove front wheel, remove fender liner, then access hidden pull string or. find a doner 12V source to jump at the footwell fuse box.
Don't get me started on BMW. The panels are well engineered for access and service (really mass production ease) but the BMW "brain" is overly complicated. Every little thing has a sensor on it. Shoot even to change the battery on a BMW you need to code it to the car <smh>
Now I get to jack car up, remove front wheel, remove fender liner, then access hidden pull string or. find a doner 12V source to jump at the footwell fuse box.
Don't get me started on BMW. The panels are well engineered for access and service (really mass production ease) but the BMW "brain" is overly complicated. Every little thing has a sensor on it. Shoot even to change the battery on a BMW you need to code it to the car <smh>