1000hp+ is becoming very common and many recipes are widespread these days.....anyone have a favorite one? I'm torn between an LS or German TTV8

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/10...rans-swap/amp/

https://www.cpgnation.com/the-1000-h...urbo-ls-power/

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/18...ls-engine/amp/

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...k-hp-ls-2.html

The stock internals ford 7.3 is also turning out to be insane

https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/...-mostly-stock/

Or you can also go with the bigger engines in V10/12 land but those have been doing 1k+ since 2010

 

i like the one that combines several electric motors to make 1020 hp

 

Lol. Have to admit, wasn't expecting that

 

after some recent 'drama' in another thread i just couldn't resist lol

 

1000 rwhp? It’s seems like the standard formula only requires of few common ingredients; E85, Methanol, and plenty of boost combined with plenty of proven engines, and you can at least make 1000hp or more. The life expectancy varies on engine design, but even one of the most common engines on the road, the mighty Honda K20, a 2.0L, can be your starting point. The high octane E85 is great at resisting knock, the methanol also cools the combustion temps both are critical when your big turbo is going to be forcing 40-50-even-60 psi into the engine. And with all the advancements in fuel and ignition management systems, seems like 1000 hp is the starting point if you want to be competitive in any streetable racing series the require competitors to drive from track to track.

 

Yep, the larger displacement platforms are even daily streetable with long lifespans and can be rebuilt cheaply vs a 15-25k battery pack

1000rwhp is a bit more than I had in mind, I was more in the 800-850rwhp range since 1000 crank is more easily comprehended than 1200

No to mention a 3600lb car making 800 wheel is gonna smack around a 5k car making 800 wheel.....

 

Hey it's all good lol! I can't help dropping a proverbial grenade from time to time.....

 

I understand and respect your point of view so don't be afraid to post. We may not agree on all aspects but I can appreciate the knowledge and experience you bring. I love cars in general so its all good.

 

Same sentiment here. I come from over 30 years of ICE, and will always love and respect that platform. The evolution of the ICE from the 80's when I first started driving till now has always amazed me. I see EV as just another evolution of the auto. I would actually hold on to my IS350, but the problem is it will be taking up space, I'll still have to insure and register it, and this platform doesn't do well sitting, it needs to be revved out to keep it happy. I would rather pass it on to someone else who will enjoy it

 

Likewise, I'm just an addict to the sound and violence you get from built engines and the obscene top end! The other big draw for me is the ability to truly be the master of the machine, you can improve/change an ICE car to be exactly what you desire. That's very important for me, I'm actually working on something for the 460 now that may benefit other owners who want 200 more hp.

I just can't come to grips with a platform that is what it is unless you are willing to risk arcing the motors or blowing up cells. I don't have an issue working on them, they are actually very easy but they just are what they are. There is no making one 7x faster than it was stock.

I'll probably grow out of it, lord knows I already drive an LS460 as a daily lol!

 

The ICE is clearly going to be going out after a final decade of stunning achievements! The performance that modern engines are capable of was unthinkable when I was first learning about cars in the 80’s and after the what seemed like it’s peak had come in the late 60’s, when cars produced about 4 times better performance than the 80’s, I would not have predicted that we would ever reach the current levels of power output and efficiency from the ICE. My fathers ‘85 Corvette seemed like the hottest performer around when he bought it. It had a whopping 245hp! Less than the average family sedan comes with currently. But the performance of all the top level Halo vehicles every manufacturer offers now, is absolutely incredible, from Corvette Z06’s and BMW M4’s or the whole proliferation of Supercharged Hemis that offer very impressive performance in a variety of vehicles from Grand Cherokees to Challengers. The Dodge Demon offered performance unimaginable when I was a kid. All signs point to this being the last hurrah for the ICE, with the unfortunate changes in the climate recently, and the future of fossil fuels being bleak, along with the statistics generated by the new Tesla Plaid topping anything else ever produced, it seems like this will be the final generation of Americans to enjoy the ICE, it will be going out at the top of its game!

 

For some cars it's very expensive to get 1000hp and when you do get there, if it is RWD it is very hard to put the power down. On my GTR to get to that level you have to build the engine and the transmission and it is very expensive, bare minimum $50k and even then it can be tempermental. Same my old Viper, nice big engine but since they didn't make that many of them it costs a lot to get to 1000hp and best way is to twin turbo it. One other thing I personally don't care for is running E85 or race gas. If I want 1000hp I want to build my car to get there using 93 octane because I want to run those hp numbers day in/day out without going to get special fuel. Probably the cheapest way is to get an old Mustang and modify the heck out of it.

 

Most local to me use an LS or 5.0, costs $7k if you don't care about it living or 20k if you do, car to put it in ranges from 20-30k.

Guys with the old fox bodies can cheat since they are so light that 600 hp is like a 1000. As far as fuel is concerned most these days run sensors to set power level in accordance with octane automatically. 93 is easily done for the most part

The GTR is known to be very picky at high power, how did your transmission hold up?

 

My GTR is fine because it's mostly stock so stock turbos and stock tranny. I've thought about building it but it's so expensive and it can be tough to find someone to trust that is even remotely close to where I live. The GTR tax is real just because of how small the market is. Like you said, just build an old fox body and be done.

 

E85 is as common across large areas of the country as 93 octane. Some areas will have few places that offer it for sale. But then even if it’s a streetable 1000hp, it’s still very unlikely to get used as a daily. And yes, turning HP and torque in to neck snapping acceleration involves many ingredients. 1000 rwhp can quickly turn even the best cheater slicks into a thick cloud of white smoke and black dust if not managed correctly. Most of the modern engine management systems available will have provisions for a 2-step rev limiter and boost controller that can be programmed to reduce the power with point accuracy in specific gears to help minimize blowing the tires off before u get to the 60 ft mark. Also an array of sensors that measure each wheels speed, the height at each corner, and then use a traction control system to save the driver from doing a wheel stand or burnout, very few 1000hp cars are actually set up to perform at that level except briefly starting in 3 or even 4th gear. And even in those gears, they are possibly going to blow the tires off at any time. 1000hp, just because it’s becoming more common, hardly means it’s not still extremely potent!