Originally Posted by patgilm

Yeah no doubt about that, forgot we were talking about 1000hp cars. Even for a tuned GTR on stock turbos you need new injectors to run E85 which is what I was trying to say and thats only for 600+ hp applications. The other benefit is it runs much cleaner, no black soot coming out of the exhaust.

Originally Posted by dwoods801

E85 is as common across large areas of the country as 93 octane. Some areas will have few places that offer it for sale. But then even if it’s a streetable 1000hp, it’s still very unlikely to get used as a daily. And yes, turning HP and torque in to neck snapping acceleration involves many ingredients. 1000 rwhp can quickly turn even the best cheater slicks into a thick cloud of white smoke and black dust if not managed correctly. Most of the modern engine management systems available will have provisions for a 2-step rev limiter and boost controller that can be programmed to reduce the power with point accuracy in specific gears to help minimize blowing the tires off before u get to the 60 ft mark. Also an array of sensors that measure each wheels speed, the height at each corner, and then use a traction control system to save the driver from doing a wheel stand or burnout, very few 1000hp cars are actually set up to perform at that level except briefly starting in 3 or even 4th gear. And even in those gears, they are possibly going to blow the tires off at any time. 1000hp, just because it’s becoming more common, hardly means it’s not still extremely potent!

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill

why would someone put E85 in a street car? I don’t really get it tbh. We have 94 octane in some places here

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Oh yeah I got that. I just was making it clear to Jill that just by putting E85 in your tank doesn't equal more power

Originally Posted by dwoods801

I would think your going to need bigger injectors in anything that reaches 1000 hp is going to require some bigger injectors. All I am suggesting is you can build something that makes 800-900 hp on 93 and when your going to the track or something and want have the option for a lethal kill setting, you can fill it up with E85 and be able to hit the 4 digit area in HP, and then the motor wouldn’t have to be so radical and would be easier to drive on the roads for daily driving. Cause no matter how u build it, 1000 hp is more than u need or can make in most daily driving. You would blow the tires off every time you you left a stop light. So it’s just uncommon to have anything setup to make that much power in 1-3rd gear.

Originally Posted by Striker223

Power, if I swap 93 out for e85 in my Audi I gain 100hp

Originally Posted by dwoods801

i don’t think that is what was implied. It’s more like you could pick up 20% more power if your engine was tuned for e85 and the fuel system will altering to flow the increased amount required and any vulnerable areas of the fuel system would need to be upgraded to handle the more corrosive E85

Originally Posted by Striker223

Motech and fueltech baby, their control systems are awesome.

Originally Posted by Striker223

Bingo. Even the plaid doesn't put down 1000 at launch, it has perfect "boost by gear" so to speak and only ever applies what the tires can take. Similar to the advanced ECUs but perfect since it's electric

Originally Posted by Striker223

Yeah? I mean that's commonly known isn't it? Most newer cars don't have issues running it on stock systems once you add the mix sensor. DI injectors take it just fine for the most part

Originally Posted by dwoods801

just being careful, don’t want to say Anything that is going to l have someone try something with their car that causes some issues, and then suggest I had been saying it was fact. And u know, we are on the internet here…

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Motech ain't cheap