View Poll Results: Tesla Model 3 Build Defects - Deal Breaker?
Yes
31
65.96%
No
11
23.40%
Maybe
5
10.64%
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Lexus Test Driver
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What Tesla offers as features is at the whim of Elon. There was a tweet that asked Elon if he could add HUD and he basically said no....the car will be autonomous soon so you won't really need that feature. Elon thinks video games are cool...Apple Carplay...not so much. The entire segment is a compromise built to a price point of course. I couldn't even get memory seats on my $50k IS350 and the Tesla comes with a security system and dashcam...i don't see that feature on any of other cars in the segment. The Model 3 is relatively cheaper than the same cars in the segment too as it starts at $35k (which you can still order at a Tesla dealer off-menu) so lots of compromises at that price point.
Intermediate
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Looks like Model 3 owners get used to it after a while. The only complain some have is not having an option for Apple/Android carplay. But anyone saying looking down for everything is safer than HUD is definitely trolling.
Lexus Fanatic
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So now that I have said my part about HUDs up displays. You can actually buy a Lexus UX electric with a heads up display, a proper sunroof, cooling seats or whatever Lexus might offer. I have said this time and time again, the large manufacturers have a manufacturing advantage when they can bundle in the cost and development of a ICE/Hybrid/Plug in and then bring in electric options....Tesla actually has a manufacturing disadvantage as economies of scale are limited. Tesla can’t even get the doors on the model Y to open or glass roofs to stay on the roof lol.
Not everyone wants an electric to go supersonic speeds. some want luxury features. A nice ride. Heads up display features or even Apple car play. (Still find it overrated). There are trade offs for one thing vs another...
Now that the Hummer details have been released. Is there any doubt the new Escalade will NOT have the Hummer EV powertrain....it will likely happen but you get all the luxury trimmings as well. As it’s all baked into the costs.
Not everyone wants an electric to go supersonic speeds. some want luxury features. A nice ride. Heads up display features or even Apple car play. (Still find it overrated). There are trade offs for one thing vs another...
Now that the Hummer details have been released. Is there any doubt the new Escalade will NOT have the Hummer EV powertrain....it will likely happen but you get all the luxury trimmings as well. As it’s all baked into the costs.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Oct 21, 2020 at 07:57 AM.
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How much does it cost to implement? Or does Tesla go to Radio Shack and buy a HUD kit. Will Tesla see short term profits selling the option? Given Tesla still has massive build out costs they need to pick and choose where they spend money very carefully. If you can show a cost/benefit analysis please do.
Which cars have HUD available for 2020???
Acura
- TLX
- RLX
- RDX
Audi
- A4
- A5
- A6
- A7
- A8
- Q5
- Q7
- Q8
Bentley
- Bentayga
- Continental GT
- Flying Spur
BMW
- 2 Series
- 3 Series
- 4 Series
- 5 Series
- 7 Series
- 8 Series
- i8
- X1
- X2
- X3
- X4
- X5
- X6
- X7
- Z4
Buick
- Encore GX
- Envision
- Regal Sportback
Cadillac
- CT4
- CT5
- CT6
- Escalade
- XT4
- XT5
- XT6
Chevrolet
- Camaro
- Corvette
- Silverado 1500
- Silverado 2500/3500
- Suburban
- Tahoe
Ford
- Escape
Genesis
- G70
- G80
- G90
GMC
- Acadia
- Sierra 1500
- Sierra 2500/3500
- Yukon
Honda
- Accord
- Clarity Fuel Cell
Hyundai
- Kona
- Palisade
- Santa Fe
- Sonata
- Veloster
Infiniti
- QX50
Jaguar
- E-Pace
- F-Pace
- I-Pace
- XE
- XF
Kia
- K900
- Soul
- Stinger
- Telluride
Lamborghini
- Urus
Land Rover
- Defender
- Discovery
- Discovery Sport
- Range Rover
- Range Rover Evoque
- Range Rover Sport
- Range Rover Velar
Lexus
- ES
- GS
- LC
- LS
- LX
- RX
- UX
Lincoln
- Aviator
- Continental
- Corsair
- Navigator
Mazda
- CX-3
- CX-30
- CX-5
- CX-9
- Mazda3
- Mazda6
Mercedes-Benz
- A-Class
- C-Class
- CLA-Class
- CLS-Class
- E-Class
- GLB-Class
- GLC-Class
- GLE-Class
- GLS-Class
- AMG GT
- S-Class
Mini
- Hardtop
- Clubman
- Convertible
- Countryman
Mitsubishi
- Eclipse Cross
Porsche
- Panamera
- Cayenne
Rolls-Royce
- Cullinan
- Dawn
- Ghost
- Phantom
- Wraith
Subaru
- WRX
Toyota
- Avalon
- Camry
- Highlander
- Prius
- Supra
Volvo
- S60
- S90
- V60
- V90
- XC60
- XC90 https://www.cars.com/articles/which-...r-2020-421615/
Lexus Fanatic
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It's settled then, Tesla is going down because they don't have a HUD option. 🤪 Notice how the thread TITLE is totally ignored and the usual suspects latch onto one thing to beat Tesla over the head with and make themselves feel better about the fact their chosen auto company can't compete with Tesla at all.
Meanwhile Tesla owners got more range, for free.
Meanwhile Tesla owners got more range, for free.
Lexus Fanatic
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Tesla Model 3 bumper has an annoying habit of falling off when it drives through water
Not sure how this could be spun....I have never heard of a bumper falling off after driving through water
Not sure how this could be spun....I have never heard of a bumper falling off after driving through water
Tesla Model 3 bumper has an annoying habit of falling off when it drives through water
Not sure how this could be spun....I have never heard of a bumper falling off after driving through water
Not sure how this could be spun....I have never heard of a bumper falling off after driving through water
Last edited by Hoovey689; Oct 21, 2020 at 01:38 PM. Reason: correction
Lexus Test Driver
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Lexus Champion
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Lexus Fanatic
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IMO. If Tesla were to do something like a HUD. It would be something built into the glass...Toyota is working on something like that or might even have ot already in the Japan models or something...some type of AR or something along those lines. (But let’s not give Toyota any credit if they are developing such a piece of glass)
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The issue with developing such a piece of glass vs using a projection is cost of replacement. Windshields are a wear item, and are very commonly replaced.
The time for such a thing may come, but my guess is a projection makes a lot more sense.
The time for such a thing may come, but my guess is a projection makes a lot more sense.
Lexus Test Driver
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From: CA
I agree and it is weird that Elon is so against HUD. Its relatively cheap to implement and the Model 3 is highly profitable on a per car basis at greater than 20% gross margin which means, they have a lot of wiggle room to put in something like HUD. I think he's just being Elon and if he doesn't like it, oh well...