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Old Jun 27, 2022 | 04:03 PM
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Saw my first GV60 over the weekend (left side). I was in a rush heading into a wedding and only took this picture. Much better looking in person, but still like it the least compared to the Kia/Hyundai twins.

Like the twins (and honestly like most of the higher end H/K/G vehicles in my opinion) it really stands out from the crowd. That C pillar and sloping rear end cannot be mistaken for anything else.


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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 12:59 PM
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^^^ can honestly say i don't like how it looks in that pic... maybe it's the crappy two tone lighter cladding.
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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Doug and Goose have their reviews up:


Mark says he would take this over the EQS ten out of ten times.
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Mark says he would take this over the EQS ten out of ten times.
Haven't watched the videos yet. What's the reason(s) why?
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 01:52 PM
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Haven't watched the videos yet. What's the reason(s) why?
It's in the conclusion of the video. You should also watch his EQS review when you have the chance, if you haven't already.
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Haven't watched the videos yet. What's the reason(s) why?
he doesn't like the eqs and he's not a techie.
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Old Jul 13, 2022 | 07:54 PM
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The GV60 Performance model is faster than I expected. C&D tested it and it's right next to the Model Y Performance in acceleration and trap speed. Hilariously it's even faster than the Mach E GT. Would probably be even faster if it had better tires. Range is not great, but we already knew that.

Tested: 2023 Genesis GV60 Is Like at First Sight

The Ioniq 5 N/EV6 GT must be monsters if they're even faster than this.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 07:59 AM
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I actually don't see what's so surprising about that. The GV60 is significantly smaller than those models, lighter than a Mach-E GT, and more powerful than a Model Y Performance.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 08:49 AM
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Not a great looking vehicle. And 200 miles range from C & D is quite low.
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Old Jul 14, 2022 | 05:35 PM
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The boost button on the GV60 is hilariously powerful. Such a fun little thing. It's not as buttoned down or ultimate handling champ, but delightful blend of luxury and performance, fitting with the brand ethos
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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
I actually don't see what's so surprising about that. The GV60 is significantly smaller than those models, lighter than a Mach-E GT, and more powerful than a Model Y Performance.
It really isn't smaller though. A Mach E GT is 4920 pounds, a GV60 Performance is only 30 pounds less at 4890 pounds, while the MYP is the lightest of the bunch at 4,555 pounds. Power to weight, the GV60 is on paper supposed to be much slower than either of those two cars, and the manufacturer 0-60 time is around half a second slower as well. So to see it basically go toe-to-toe with them was a big surprise.

I know the Mach E GT has some thermal issues that results in power being cut, but I'm surprised that the GV60 can keep up with the MYP. I didn't think that would happen until the more powerful EV6 GT.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
It really isn't smaller though. A Mach E GT is 4920 pounds, a GV60 Performance is only 30 pounds less at 4890 pounds,
those are some very heavy vehicles.
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Old Jul 16, 2022 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
those are some very heavy vehicles.
Batteries are heavy, no escaping that at the moment. Just depends how they manage the weight in the tuning. Our e-tron was a beast at 6,000 lbs. Our Polestar 2 (compact sedan) is about 4,700 pounds.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
It really isn't smaller though. A Mach E GT is 4920 pounds, a GV60 Performance is only 30 pounds less at 4890 pounds, while the MYP is the lightest of the bunch at 4,555 pounds. Power to weight, the GV60 is on paper supposed to be much slower than either of those two cars, and the manufacturer 0-60 time is around half a second slower as well. So to see it basically go toe-to-toe with them was a big surprise.

I know the Mach E GT has some thermal issues that results in power being cut, but I'm surprised that the GV60 can keep up with the MYP. I didn't think that would happen until the more powerful EV6 GT.
The GV60 is is almost 9" shorter than a Mach-E and almost 10" shorter than a Model Y. That's significantly shorter in both cases. I was only going by manufacturer numbers unless you plan on listing the as-tested numbers from the same testing outfit for each. If we're looking at C&D's test results, including weight, we see:

C/D TEST RESULTS - Genesis GV60
60 mph: 3.7 sec
100 mph: 9.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 12.2 sec @ 112 mph
Length: 177.8 in
Curb Weight: 4862 lb
Combined Power: 483 hp

Combined Torque: 516 lb-ft
Battery Pack: liquid-cooled lithium-ion, 77.4 kWh

C/D TEST RESULTS - Tesla Model Y Performance (2020)
60 mph: 3.6 sec
100 mph: 9.1 sec
1/4 mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mph
Length: 187.0 in
Curb weight: 4439 lb

Combined Power (C/D est): 470 hp
Battery Pack: liquid-cooled lithium-ion, 75.0 kWh

C/D TEST RESULTS - Ford Mustang Mach-E GT
60 mph: 3.7 sec
100 mph: 12.4 sec
1/4-Mile: 12.7 sec @ 101 mph
Length: 186.7 in
Curb Weight: 5001 lb
Combined Power: 480 hp

Combined Torque: 634 lb-ft
Battery Pack: 88.0-kWh liquid-cooled lithium-ion

So looking at the stats, I'm actually not surprised at the results much at all. It would be nice to be absolutely positive of the Model Y Performance's combined output but there's no shocking discrepancies here other than the Mach-E's obvious power management issues. I think Genesis did a great job with the tuning of this car.

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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 07:36 PM
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Length has nothing to do with straight-line performance. C&D's weight numbers are slightly different because they actually weigh the cars they test, while the numbers I took came straight from the manufacturer, even then there isn't much of a discrepancy between the two.

The GV60 performance has 429 horsepower, the 483 is only for boost mode which lasts ten seconds, not even enough time to complete the quarter mile. Power-to-weight, on paper it is still much inferior to the Mach E GT and Model Y Performance. Even assuming they all make roughly the same amount of power, the GV60 really shouldn't be faster than a car that has 100 more pound feet of torque and a car that weighs 500 pounds less, yet it somehow is despite the boost mode time limitations and rather rubbish tires that can't put the power down.

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