Tesla "full self driving" discussion
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Your car is slower than mine so what does that statement prove?
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I read that full self driving isn't really full self driving. That the autosteer part for city street is still going to be delayed. And the 2016+ cars were sold as full self driving complaint for the future so no hardware updates would be needed. Now I'm reading that there will be a $1500 hardware upgrade needed for those cars.
Sounds like a mess.
Tesla wants owners to pay $1,500 for hardware they thought they already had (msn.com)
Tesla launches its Full Self-Driving subscription package for $199 per month - Electrek
Sounds like a mess.
Tesla wants owners to pay $1,500 for hardware they thought they already had (msn.com)
Tesla launches its Full Self-Driving subscription package for $199 per month - Electrek
The fact that FSD doesn't FSD after this many years is the real complaint. Since it doesn't transfer to other cars I'm sure many people no longer have the car and got almost zero value from their FSD purchase.
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Sure he is being an *** if he actually does mess with people using FSD but it doesn't have anything to do with how you personally view the FSD system as "fine" since you normally directly control the car. It's not really the point of this thread how fast or not a car is but rather does the system work and how much it costs.
As far as my view goes I prefer the subscription in theory so I can buy it for a long trip and not have to pay so much for something I'll only use maybe 20 times over 10 years.........this is all provided the system itself (car its mounted in aside) drives at least as well as I do when I have been up for 20+ hours. If it can't it just won't be used in my case since I would only use it to take entirely over for me so I can rest if I've been up too long.
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Yeah, so why did you bother constantly mentioning how FSDs failings don't matter since the car is fast? If a car has a system it should work at least as well as the driver can perform the same actions or it's useless.
Sure he is being an *** if he actually does mess with people using FSD but it doesn't have anything to do with how you personally view the FSD system as "fine" since you normally directly control the car. It's not really the point of this thread how fast or not a car is but rather does the system work and how much it costs.
As far as my view goes I prefer the subscription in theory so I can buy it for a long trip and not have to pay so much for something I'll only use maybe 20 times over 10 years.........this is all provided the system itself (car its mounted in aside) drives at least as well as I do when I have been up for 20+ hours. If it can't it just won't be used in my case since I would only use it to take entirely over for me so I can rest if I've been up too long.
Sure he is being an *** if he actually does mess with people using FSD but it doesn't have anything to do with how you personally view the FSD system as "fine" since you normally directly control the car. It's not really the point of this thread how fast or not a car is but rather does the system work and how much it costs.
As far as my view goes I prefer the subscription in theory so I can buy it for a long trip and not have to pay so much for something I'll only use maybe 20 times over 10 years.........this is all provided the system itself (car its mounted in aside) drives at least as well as I do when I have been up for 20+ hours. If it can't it just won't be used in my case since I would only use it to take entirely over for me so I can rest if I've been up too long.
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Beta9 is friggin awesome from a tech perspective, the way it recognized and visualizes in real time and uses all that input to drive is astounding. Warts and all, it's cool as hell. This is the future like it or not, and I don't see any other way than trial by fire meaning AI learning in real traffic situations. Anything that thinks geofenced, limited scenarios is going to achieve FSD is in for a rude awakening.
Of note, notice this is the Tesla FSD thread not the general FSD thread. That's because no one else has anything worth talking about.
Of note, notice this is the Tesla FSD thread not the general FSD thread. That's because no one else has anything worth talking about.
Last edited by DaveGS4; Jul 21, 2021 at 09:11 AM. Reason: Headed towards debate and impolite.
But it is pretty impressive as shown here:
Last edited by bitkahuna; Jul 21, 2021 at 07:01 AM.
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Did a quick Google search to verify the bolded statement. Waymo gives legitimate full self-driving capability to vehicles (Pacifica, Prius, I-Pace, and others). I personally think that's worth talking about, but not for this thread as this is specific to Tesla's driver assistance system (Tesla FSD). As a driver assistance system, Tesla FSD is one of the best.
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Not much to see here, honestly. If you buy FSD you get the hardware upgrade for free. These cars are all 2+ years old, subscription just came out now. That's hardly a ripoff, but they should give you a bill credit on FSD subscription until X months and your $1500 is all paid back.
The fact that FSD doesn't FSD after this many years is the real complaint. Since it doesn't transfer to other cars I'm sure many people no longer have the car and got almost zero value from their FSD purchase.
The fact that FSD doesn't FSD after this many years is the real complaint. Since it doesn't transfer to other cars I'm sure many people no longer have the car and got almost zero value from their FSD purchase.