Yeah, I do really enjoy FSD even in its limited form. But the thought of dropping another 10K on top of the purchase price is hard to swallow considering the age of my 3

 

Harold Hill did, of course, ultimately deliver.

Musk will too.

 

Its an option you tick off when making an order

 

 

right so allen's point is because the fsd package is tied to the car, not the owner, if you get another car, you have to pay for it all over again and why he says it's a disincentive to upgrade.

 

LOL. harold hill was a charlatan and crook. yes, he 'inspired' the crappy band to eventually get good enough to perform at the end, but of course, that's a fantasy ending to a movie.

we'll see. i hope he does. i WANT self-driving capability.

 

Why do you think Elon Musk is a charlatan and crook.

 

It’s a pretty good business model and lots of profit in but, main stream people will not buy this on a monthly subscription basis. Thus it will fail. $2400 a year? Lol

 

Better get used to it- the future of cars are drivable smartphones. The Germans have already started their pay-for-features subscriptions.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...omotive-trend/

 

If the alternative is $10,000 upfront for something that you can't transfer to a different Tesla if you buy a new one, then sure they will. Likely in droves. People want the features, but they don't like the 10K cost - and they typically don't focus as much on the break-even time. There are lots of cases where consumers are willing to pay more over time than they would pay if they were to write a big one time check. In this case, it addresses some big barriers to entry. Because you can turn the FSD subscription on and off, it's something you can use only when you really need it. Customers will also rationalize it as way to not throw their 10K down the crapper if they had FSD on a prior Tesla and buy a new one

 

interesting argument... and maybe the subscription will actually destroy the pay once option.

 

I think that might just be the goal - more people are likely to take it on these new terms than the old ones, and it gives customers confidence as they can start their sub when they feel FSD is a bit more mature rather than taking a 10K punt on something which they might think isn't quite there yet. Also wonder if the accounting treatment might be better for Tesla and might also be (in part) behind this. Tesla doesn't recognize the full 10K upfront charge for FSD as revenue anyway, FSD revenue is deferred and is recognized in increments as features are released.

 

What a bunch of crap. So I'm going to pay a bunch of money so I don't have to drive my car, but I can let computers drive it for me? No thanks.

Also nothing worse than seeing a Tesla on the freeway. When I see one, I do everything I can to mess with them.

 

Why is everyone in such a damn hurry to get into a car that can drive itself? Do we have to constantly be pushing the technological envelope? It's all a bit much, especially in this case. There is literally nothing wrong with driving yourself (or riding with someone operating the car).

 

Disagree. Hearing that you mess with Teslas on the freeway for no real reason other than "boo Tesla", is worse.