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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
That says nothing about prison.
I didn't say it did. Elon is making big mistakes with how he manipulates stock. He has not transitioned effectively from a startup / fundraiser to a publicly traded company executive.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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Audi has designed it's own chip for automated driving, so did BMW. They are all playing the same game.
There is quite a bit of difference between designing a custom chip to operate a vehicle onboard automatic driving systems, vs a super computer Tesla imagines.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:32 PM
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I didn't say it did. Elon is making big mistakes with how he manipulates stock. He has not transitioned effectively from a startup / fundraiser to a publicly traded company executive.
I haven't been following it closely, but apparently Musk is on trial for his dealings with SolarCity.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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I haven't been following it closely, but apparently Musk is on trial for his dealings with SolarCity.
That's a civil suit. Lol. Completely different.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveGS4
I didn't say it did. Elon is making big mistakes with how he manipulates stock. He has not transitioned effectively from a startup / fundraiser to a publicly traded company executive.
Hmmm Tesla seems to be doing pretty well for themselves.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Hmmm Tesla seems to be doing pretty well for themselves.
And yet, chinese giant Baidu may well beat Tesla to self driving robo taxis and yes, they're doing their own AI semiconductors too.

All this fanpersonism from some saying Tesla is 10 years ahead is nonsense.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-computer-chip

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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I thought sexist terms were not allowed. Maybe someone else will beat Tesla, but don't tell that to the people that say FSD will never happen.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Hmmm Tesla seems to be doing pretty well for themselves.
Again, I did not say that it wasn't. Need to stop being so needlessly argumentative please or exit this thread.

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
And yet, chinese giant Baidu may well beat Tesla to self driving robo taxis and yes, they're doing their own AI semiconductors too.

All this fanboyism from some saying Tesla is 10 years ahead is nonsense.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-computer-chip
More nonsense, they are learning from Musk how to make sensationalist headlines. Meanwhile, in the real world, Bosch and Daimler gave up on their once ambitious robotaxi project.

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/08/11...botaxi-dreams/
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Maybe someone else will beat Tesla, but don't tell that to the people that say FSD will never happen.
i think only Och has said it will never happen. Maybe you should add him to your ignore list.

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveGS4
Again, I did not say that it wasn't. Need to stop being so needlessly argumentative please or exit this thread.
You said Musk "has not transitioned effectively from a startup / fundraiser to a publicly traded company executive" I said Tesla is doing well under the leadership of Musk. How is that being needlessly argumentative? I am countering what you said with a fact, Musk's leadership and the obvious success of Tesla directly contradicts your claim.

Tesla is not only in the pole position for electric vehicles, they are also the most valuable car company by far. If that's not a CEO successfully transitioning to the big leagues then what is?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i think only Och has said it will never happen.
I believe mmarshall and a few others share my sentiments. There is the other big thread regarding autonomous cars in general, not just Tesla FSD, and we had quite a few heated discussions in it from like 5 years ago. I stand by everything I said in it, and since then there has been zero progress in this technology, it still fails at most basic tasks. If this forum and us are around in a few decades, I'll remember to dig up the thread and post - "I told you so". Or maybe the skynet takes over, and machines learn our posting patterns, and 2000 years later AI member replacements tell my AI how wrong I was, lol.
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
You said Musk "has not transitioned effectively from a startup / fundraiser to a publicly traded company executive" I said Tesla is doing well under the leadership of Musk. How is that being needlessly argumentative? I am countering what you said with a fact, Musk's leadership and the obvious success of Tesla directly contradicts your claim.

Tesla is not only in the pole position for electric vehicles, they are also the most valuable car company by far. If that's not a CEO successfully transitioning to the big leagues then what is?

Not getting it. There isn’t the need to read so much negative intent into every single post and feel the need to counter them. I don’t have a problem with Tesla or their success and said nothing about that.

Lex2k exit this thread please.
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Default Musk admits Tesla's latest self-driving software update 'not great'




Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk said Monday said that the electric-car maker was working on improving the much-awaited update to its self-driving software "as fast as possible."The billionaire entrepreneur tweeted that the Full Self-Driving Beta version 9.2 is "actually not great imo (in my opinion), but Autopilot/AI team is rallying to improve as fast as possible."

"We're trying to have a single stack for both highway & city streets, but it requires massive NN (neural network) retraining."

Tesla had recently come under the scrutiny of U.S. safety regulators, who opened an investigation into its driver assistant system because of accidents where its cars crashed into stationary police cars and fire trucks.

Two U.S. senators also called on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate Tesla, saying it misled consumers and endangered the public by marketing its driving automation systems as fully self-driving.
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Old Aug 24, 2021 | 08:23 AM
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a $10,000 feature that's 'not great' in the opinion of the company's CEO.
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