Tesla "full self driving" discussion
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According to a Stanford Law School report, at least 90% of all motor vehicle crashes are caused fully or in part by human error. The exact percentage is debatable, and the report examined several studies that ranged anywhere between 90% and 99%.
I think the latest crash being amplified has to do with a driver who dropped his cellphone and reached down to get it taking his attention off his driving.
Wow, how many things are wrong here? And they blame the car?
Maybe the NHTSA is looking in the wrong place?
I think the latest crash being amplified has to do with a driver who dropped his cellphone and reached down to get it taking his attention off his driving.
Wow, how many things are wrong here? And they blame the car?
Maybe the NHTSA is looking in the wrong place?
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According to a Stanford Law School report, at least 90% of all motor vehicle crashes are caused fully or in part by human error. The exact percentage is debatable, and the report examined several studies that ranged anywhere between 90% and 99%.
Maybe the NHTSA is looking in the wrong place?
Maybe the NHTSA is looking in the wrong place?
I would not have agreed with that in the past, but, with most of today's vehicles, outside of Teslas, yes, that's probably correct. The Tesla self-driving systems, however, are probably going to show a much higher percentage of vehicles having driver/system error....though there is also system-abuse by drivers as well. I'll wait for the results of the Federal investigation before commenting further on that.
The Tesla self-driving systems, however, are probably going to show a much higher percentage of vehicles having driver/system error....though there is also system-abuse by drivers as well. I'll wait for the results of the Federal investigation before commenting further on that.
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ehm, they can only investigate Tesla about issues with Tesla vehicles, who else? This is completely normal.
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tesla brought this on themselves, by making outrageous and false claims about their capabilities, to hype the brand, pump the stock, etc. did it work? yes. should they pay a price, YES i believe they should be massively fined for false claims and promises.
hey elon, weren't teslas supposed to be able to be part of a robotaxi brigade by now? but you promised!
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but there aren't as many issues with the DRIVERS of competitive vehicles, blinded by musk spells, into thinking their cars have 'full self driving' capability, and then attempting to get in the back seat for fun.
tesla brought this on themselves, by making outrageous and false claims about their capabilities, to hype the brand, pump the stock, etc. did it work? yes. should they pay a price, YES i believe they should be massively fined for false claims and promises.
hey elon, weren't teslas supposed to be able to be part of a robotaxi brigade by now? but you promised!
tesla brought this on themselves, by making outrageous and false claims about their capabilities, to hype the brand, pump the stock, etc. did it work? yes. should they pay a price, YES i believe they should be massively fined for false claims and promises.
hey elon, weren't teslas supposed to be able to be part of a robotaxi brigade by now? but you promised!
but there aren't as many issues with the DRIVERS of competitive vehicles, blinded by musk spells, into thinking their cars have 'full self driving' capability, and then attempting to get in the back seat for fun.
tesla brought this on themselves, by making outrageous and false claims about their capabilities, to hype the brand, pump the stock, etc. did it work? yes. should they pay a price, YES i believe they should be massively fined for false claims and promises.
hey elon, weren't teslas supposed to be able to be part of a robotaxi brigade by now? but you promised!
tesla brought this on themselves, by making outrageous and false claims about their capabilities, to hype the brand, pump the stock, etc. did it work? yes. should they pay a price, YES i believe they should be massively fined for false claims and promises.
hey elon, weren't teslas supposed to be able to be part of a robotaxi brigade by now? but you promised!
There is no other car sold with a system called "full self driving" or anything remotely implying something like that.
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Unless you're intentionally trying to mislead or outright lying, or you simply didn't bother to do 10 seconds of fact checking Tesla tells you exactly what Autopilot does and what it is.
Right from their website. The sensationalists and haters in general are the ones touting the system as being currently full self driving not Tesla.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
The Future of Autopilot
All Tesla vehicles have the hardware needed in the future for full self-driving in almost all circumstances, at a safety level we believe will be at least twice as good as the average human driver.
All Tesla vehicles have the hardware needed in the future for full self-driving in almost all circumstances, at a safety level we believe will be at least twice as good as the average human driver.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
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Unless you're intentionally trying to mislead or outright lying, or you simply didn't bother to do 10 seconds of fact checking Tesla tells you exactly what Autopilot does and what it is.
Right from their website. The sensationalists and haters in general are the ones touting the system as being currently full self driving not Tesla.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
Right from their website. The sensationalists and haters in general are the ones touting the system as being currently full self driving not Tesla.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
Unless you're intentionally trying to mislead or outright lying, or you simply didn't bother to do 10 seconds of fact checking Tesla tells you exactly what Autopilot does and what it is.
Right from their website. The sensationalists and haters in general are the ones touting the system as being currently full self driving not Tesla.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
Right from their website. The sensationalists and haters in general are the ones touting the system as being currently full self driving not Tesla.
But the rabid Tesla haters will do what they do. Elon is going to jail, fraud, lying, investors are angry (the funniest talking point ever), and when that fails oh the grid will collapse, batteries can't be recycled, takes too long to charge. It has become so predictable and boring.
here's what it says.
Full Self-Driving Capability
$10,000- Navigate on Autopilot
- Auto Lane Change
- Autopark
- Summon
- Full Self-Driving Computer
- Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control
Coming later this year
- Autosteer on city streets
Last edited by bitkahuna; Aug 18, 2021 at 09:42 PM.
