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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:50 PM
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Unless you drive in heavy rain.....or it just stops working when parked. There are more failures than I would like to see on the Tesla forums for a device with only a few bearings in it as the only moving parts.
Generally, if the motor fails, it will be within the first 5k miles. The longer mileage ones have tended to be very reliable. I chalk it up to bad QA
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 06:54 PM
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Curious your assessment after Track Mode...
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 07:24 AM
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Finally some exterior updates to the refreshed Model S

https://electrek.co/2022/01/11/tesla...ge-ports/?s=01

Summary - New headlights (matrix style like on the the 3 and Y), new taillights, removal of the horizontal bar above the rear license plate and new CCS port for Europe.





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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:07 AM
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Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY and you would think if you were going to make a change you would included in the new MY. Plus it's not like they made all that many '21 MY Model S'. I wonder if they are going to randomly start adding this to the '22 MY?
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY and you would think if you were going to make a change you would included in the new MY. Plus it's not like they made all that many '21 MY Model S'. I wonder if they are going to randomly start adding this to the '22 MY?
I was wondering if you had seen the news about this before you ordered your car. Pictures of the new lights were circulating a couple of months ago. Tesla doesn't seem to be beholden by model years, I feel like you could see these in the U.S. market at any time.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY and you would think if you were going to make a change you would included in the new MY. Plus it's not like they made all that many '21 MY Model S'. I wonder if they are going to randomly start adding this to the '22 MY?
They had to do a redesign of the rear because the current design couldn't accommodate a CCS port given the size difference. I guess they decided to do some additional add-ons in the process. Welcome to Tesla where there is no such thing as a model year as they improve iteratively throughout the year. The model they just showed off probably won't be available in the US anyway (at least for awhile) as its the European model with CCS.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
They had to do a redesign of the rear because the current design couldn't accommodate a CCS port given the size difference. I guess they decided to do some additional add-ons in the process. Welcome to Tesla where there is no such thing as a model year as they improve iteratively throughout the year. The model they just showed off probably won't be available in the US anyway (at least for awhile) as its the European model with CCS.
There's only one factory (Fremont) making the Model S, so I suspect this updated version will also be available in the US very soon.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY and you would think if you were going to make a change you would included in the new MY. Plus it's not like they made all that many '21 MY Model S'. I wonder if they are going to randomly start adding this to the '22 MY?
That is total BS! I'd be pissed!
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That is total BS! I'd be pissed!
Originally Posted by patgilm
Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY and you would think if you were going to make a change you would included in the new MY. Plus it's not like they made all that many '21 MY Model S'. I wonder if they are going to randomly start adding this to the '22 MY?
This is nothing new. Other brands do this from time to time.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
This is nothing new. Other brands do this from time to time.
Other brands do not add styling tweaks in the middle of a model year.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Other brands do not add styling tweaks in the middle of a model year.
Is Patglims a 21 or a 22?
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Other brands do not add styling tweaks in the middle of a model year.
Though it happened a long long time ago, but I recall BMW did this with the E39 M5 in 2000, where some late 2000 cars received the Halo Headlights and updated rear lights. Not sure if they have done this since in the last 22 years.
Since the internet was not as widely used back then, I'm not sure if anybody was angry about it.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Is Patglims a 21 or a 22?
Its a 22...

Originally Posted by patglim
Well that's annoying, I have a '22 MY
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That is total BS! I'd be pissed!
That's Tesla ownership in a nutshell. Constantly being updated.

Here is an example
  1. My 2016 Model S was built in June 2016. It has AutoPilot version 1.
  2. In Oct of 2016 all new Model S got AP2.0
  3. In April 2017 - AP2.5


The change from AP1 to 2 was pretty drastic hardware upgrade and you can't do the upgrade from Tesla, much less privately - it's fairly expensive and not worth it
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its a 22...
Ok. I thought it was 21 and that was the new 22 with some updates. My bad.
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