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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kolokmee
This does not make any sense whatsoever. If there is high demand, even if there was a delay in getting parts, all of those Plaids would've been spoken for already and delivered as soon as they arrive.
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Exactly. If demand is high, every single Tesla S would be sold. Right now, there is unsold inventory.

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The gist of the article you posted is a letter from Tesla saying the S/X launch has been delayed in Germany. The rest is conjecture and opinion. Of course there will be backed up orders from a year ago; but who's to say after the initial rush for the new model, there won't be a softening of demand like what we're seeing now in NA with excess inventory?
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The Tesla S and X line is not running at proper full capacity.

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Neither does "I haven't seen a single new Model S" mean that it is not selling, or the fact that there are 4 Plaids in inventory in Toronto mean the car is not selling.
In Montreal, there are 3 Tesla Plaid models that are unsold and are in inventory. Also two model 3s.

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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Exactly. If demand is high, every single Tesla S would be sold. Right now, there is unsold inventory.



The Tesla S and X line is not running at proper full capacity.



In Montreal, there are 3 Tesla Plaid models that are unsold and are in inventory. Also two model 3s.
Still anecdotal evidence
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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Neither does "I haven't seen a single new Model S" mean that it is not selling, or the fact that there are 4 Plaids in inventory in Toronto mean the car is not selling.

This is all anecdotal evidence. Let's see what the sales numbers are at the end of the quarter.
absolutely right.

However, as you also pointed out, production of both the S and X is low right now. Is it because they are not selling? I doubt that's the reason.
i suspect part of it is chip shortage, part is focus on so many other things, jeff's rumor of some big model s tweaks coming, maybe trying to improve quality control, etc.

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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
absolutely right.



i suspect part of it is chip shortage, part is focus on so many other things, jeff's rumor of some big model s tweaks coming, maybe trying to improve quality control, etc.
Agreed, I think there are a bunch of reasons as you pointed out 👍

Some people placed orders for multiple cars in different configurations hoping that one would arrive faster. They then cancelled the others

Another factor are people sometimes reject a car for various reasons, including large defects, small defects, or couldn't get the financing they thought they could get.

Some people rejected a car because they got tired of waiting for months, and went with another vehicle. Some people are out of the country this time of year and couldn't take delivery if they wanted to.


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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Agreed, I think there are a bunch of reasons as you pointed out 👍

Some people placed orders for multiple cars in different configurations hoping that one would arrive faster. They then cancelled the others

Another factor are people sometimes reject a car for various reasons, including large defects, small defects, or couldn't get the financing they thought they could get.

Some people rejected a car because they got tired of waiting for months, and went with another vehicle. Some people are out of the country this time of year and couldn't take delivery if they wanted to.
Or just maybe the S Plaid is not selling as well as everyone claims.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
absolutely right.



i suspect part of it is chip shortage, part is focus on so many other things, jeff's rumor of some big model s tweaks coming, maybe trying to improve quality control, etc.
It is a 10 year old platform. And price was raised significantly. There is also far more competition and the same price point than there was in the past. It is just not selling as well as it once did.

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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Or just maybe the S Plaid is not sell as well as everyone claims.
Who said it is selling well?
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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
In Montreal, there are 3 Tesla Plaid models that are unsold and are in inventory. Also two model 3s.
wait, you are telling me Tesla has 5 vehicles in inventory in Montreal? OMG.
As you know, delivery date if you order one today is July 2022, unless you want one from inventory. Inventory models are usually the ones where buyer cancels the order for whatever reason.

Everything else you are trying to make out of that makes no sense at all. Think about it a bit, do not be silly.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
wait, you are telling me Tesla has 5 vehicles in inventory in Montreal? OMG.
As you know, delivery date if you order one today is July 2022, unless you want one from inventory. Inventory models are usually the ones where buyer cancels the order for whatever reason.

Everything else you are trying to make out of that makes no sense at all. Think about it a bit, do not be silly.
I’ve seen a ton of your posts. I always expect the best from you. Nice response I plugged in 5 different zip codes and two different postal codes. All of them had 3-4 cars in inventory for the model S. Some had a few Tesla 3. IMO, the cut off from Europe was intentional so that there is actual inventory if someone actually wanted to purchase a new Tesla S Plaid…on the spot…on impulse…today!!! As other brands such as Porsche, Audi and the new Mercedes are definitely an alternative to the S in the United States so it serves Tesla well to have inventory. What are your thoughts on that?


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As you know, delivery date if you order one today is July 2022, unless you want one from inventory..

Actually delivery date for a custom Plaid is February 2022.




Certain Tesla 3 can be ordered for Feb too.

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Old Dec 15, 2021 | 07:23 PM
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The prevailing cancellation right now are on 3s and Ys to take advantage of possible tax breaks in 2022. Model S would not qualify. Tesla typically unloads on demo vehicles (store show cars) at EoQ, and you can see a ton appear over the last few weeks. What's peculiar about this is that all 170+ is new and still around (especially in Cali).

Selfishly, I'm hoping it is a demand issue so price would come down and I pick one up, but we'll see how the market plays out with Lucid available now too.

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I didn't realize that many were available all at once. Typically, some inventory becomes available near end of quarter due to cancellations in the US and some excess inventory in the past and those get scooped up quickly.

170 being available all at once though doesn't equate to a demand issue though. It could be they got in a part and was able to get the cars completed and ready for sale quickly. Let's see how long these Plaids last. If demand is an issue, it's complete illogical for Tesla to stop non North American orders per the article I posted. Europe and the other regions are clamoring for the Plaid.
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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
wait, you are telling me Tesla has 5 vehicles in inventory in Montreal? OMG.
As you know, delivery date if you order one today is July 2022, unless you want one from inventory. Inventory models are usually the ones where buyer cancels the order for whatever reason.

Everything else you are trying to make out of that makes no sense at all. Think about it a bit, do not be silly.
Not true, the higher end models only take around a month. The Plaid and M3P you can get quickly. The regular models have a long wait, especially the Mode S LR, those are well into next summer.
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Old Dec 16, 2021 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Not true, the higher end models only take around a month. The Plaid and M3P you can get quickly. The regular models have a long wait, especially the Mode S LR, those are well into next summer.
i built a regular model S LR white and it says november 2022. that's quite a long wait
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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 05:59 AM
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I am seeing a TON of Plaids here. I saw 3 yesterday!
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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Not true, the higher end models only take around a month. The Plaid and M3P you can get quickly. The regular models have a long wait, especially the Mode S LR, those are well into next summer.
i do all this work - find area code for Montreal, go to Tesla Canada and enter the area code to get estimation - it is between July and December 2022, depending on equipment.
And yes, that is why they are building all these new factories.
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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ST430
The prevailing cancellation right now are on 3s and Ys to take advantage of possible tax breaks in 2022. Model S would not qualify.
If Tesla is experiencing cancellations, that is not a good thing to be having.

Originally Posted by spwolf
i do all this work - find area code for Montreal, go to Tesla Canada and enter the area code to get estimation - it is between July and December 2022, depending on equipment.
And yes, that is why they are building all these new factories.
Tesla Plaid models in Canada or the US can be order for February 2022. The lower end stuff is July 2022 which will very likely move up. Model 3 long range or performance is Feb/March 2022. Model Y is now Feb 2022

​​​​​​​It is a good thing that Tesla has inventory waiting as well as shorter wait times for delivery.

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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
If Tesla is experiencing cancellations, that is not a good thing to be having.
​​​​​​​Tesla Plaid models in Canada or the US can be order for February 2022. The lower end stuff is July 2022 which will very likely move up. Model 3 long range or performance is Feb/March 2022. Model Y is now Feb 2022
The amount of Performance models is very small relative to the long range or standard models. There is a sizeable price difference. No matter how you try to spin it, Tesla is doing great. No amount of dislike for the brand is going to change that.
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