‘And you don’t think Toyota has the same margins on their body on frame models?

 

Possibly. I don't know every price-margin on every vehicle. My point was, however, that high-margin vehicles were not limited to Toyota products. Ford and GM were, not long ago, (reportedly) making a average 10K profit on mark-ups on high-zoot versions of their BOF trucks and SUVs. They can charge what they do because of the enormous popularity of some of them, like the F-150 and Silverado.

 

But when the domestics offer "Employee Pricing For All" or "$15k Customer Cash" on these same trucks, it makes me laugh. Huge incentives hurt resale value. How much profit are they really making by overinflating the price of the vehicle to begin with? $85K for a new Chevy Tahoe...no thanks.

Haha thanks! It's fun to be back!

 

Savagegeese got his hands on one.


Overall, not much has changed. Still has tons of torque steer and in desperate need of AWD.

 

Thanks for posting and bringing attention to ES Motorola.

watched the video earlier.. the ES is the perfect luxury car for middle America. I’m not surprised it does so well and dominates

 

I've warmed up to the current gen ES350. Just can't get over the humongous front overhang and no AWD for the V6. Otherwise it might have been on my shopping list for our next car.

 

I have always figured there is no awd V6 so Lexus forces the buyer to choose the RX.

 

It would be interesting to know why AWD isn't offered on the V6. Maybe they figure the ES350 sells well enough without it.

 

Do you honestly think Toyota could not designed this car to have a V-6 and all wheel drive?

 

Yeah it doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult. Acura is able to do it with the TLX V6.

 

They already did it with the I4. My honest guess is that the RX just costs more so it’s just more profit to Toyota if they can make.an upgrade sale. I doubt the RX costs more to build than the ES . Plus all of the all Wheel drive V6 front wheel drive big sedans all got canceled. So I don’t think it’s that big of a deal for most people

I have never really seen the TLX comparison towards an ES. They just seem like different cars for different buyers

 

Yawn, is my reaction to this car - geared towards geriatrics is what this is.

 

What's your point? but seriously, lexus will continue to make a ton of money off this car. It's refined, it's reliable, it's comfortable and roomy, it's quiet and smooth, it holds its value very well.

 

Huge money and profits.

 

Since you want to bring up the subject of "Geriatrics", the clock is ticking, and NONE of us are getting any younger. Something to remember.