MT: Luxury SUV comparison.
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MT: Luxury SUV comparison.
Win one for body on frame American SUVs.
MT SUV comparison
4th. BMW X7
3rd Mercedes GLS
2nd Escalade
1st Navigator
MT SUV comparison
4th. BMW X7
3rd Mercedes GLS
2nd Escalade
1st Navigator
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Feb 20, 2021 at 04:59 AM.
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I appreciate the patriotism card going on here but Navigator is no where near X7 in pretty much anything. Although they are similarly sized they are different class of vehicles much like RX and X5 are.
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When the original X5 and M class debuted, they were stacked up against the body on frame Escalades, Navigators, Range Rover and LX...
IMO, the Navigator and Escalade are a class above the X7 and GLE
IMO, the Navigator and Escalade are a class above the X7 and GLE
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I dont know if I would cross shop the American luxobarges with the X7 and GLS...
Anyway, this is a surprising result because many car reviewers prefer the bmw to the Mercedes. I think it is a real shame that Mercedes put the same interior on the GLS as the GLE.
Anyway, this is a surprising result because many car reviewers prefer the bmw to the Mercedes. I think it is a real shame that Mercedes put the same interior on the GLS as the GLE.
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I'm with Jill. Both the Escalade and Navigator are now worlds above what they were several years ago.
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It sounded to me like it won despite ride quality short comings, so not sure how BOF contributed to it winning the comparison - maybe I'm missing something... 
Yes, considerably above their predecessors, but are their current models "better" than the GLS and/or X7? I honestly don't have a clue and I'm sure the answer is somewhere along the lines of "it depends..."
Yes, considerably above their predecessors, but are their current models "better" than the GLS and/or X7? I honestly don't have a clue and I'm sure the answer is somewhere along the lines of "it depends..."
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Win one for body on frame American SUVs.
MT SUV comparison
4th. BMW X7
3rd Mercedes GLS
2nd Escalade
1st Navigator
MT SUV comparison
4th. BMW X7
3rd Mercedes GLS
2nd Escalade
1st Navigator
To the naysayers, remember space and overall comfort (heavily including 3rd row) played a big factor here.
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I am a potential buyer this year for the X7 and the third row itself isn’t that bad/cramped. Where they may lose me is the cargo space behind the third row which was disappointing to me. My Durango has more room behind the third row which is somewhat important to me. I’ll have to look at the Navigator and Escalade this spring.
As for the article, it doesn’t surprise me with the comments about the X7 ride and lack of hp. A fairer comparison would have been the 50i with the turbo V8, I personally don’t think the turbo 6 is powerful enough for such a big SUV.
As for the article, it doesn’t surprise me with the comments about the X7 ride and lack of hp. A fairer comparison would have been the 50i with the turbo V8, I personally don’t think the turbo 6 is powerful enough for such a big SUV.
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I am a potential buyer this year for the X7 and the third row itself isn’t that bad/cramped. Where they may lose me is the cargo space behind the third row which was disappointing to me. My Durango has more room behind the third row which is somewhat important to me. I’ll have to look at the Navigator and Escalade this spring.
As for the article, it doesn’t surprise me with the comments about the X7 ride and lack of hp. A fairer comparison would have been the 50i with the turbo V8, I personally don’t think the turbo 6 is powerful enough for such a big SUV.
As for the article, it doesn’t surprise me with the comments about the X7 ride and lack of hp. A fairer comparison would have been the 50i with the turbo V8, I personally don’t think the turbo 6 is powerful enough for such a big SUV.
The Navigator has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution (never thought I'd say that). Yes a V8 would have been fairer, but the Lincoln is 6 cylinders as well
the big american suvs are built on track bof chassis because it's practical and cheaper for them (mfrs) to do so.
the major downside to the bof platforms being used is the suvs become really tall (to achieve usable interior height on top the truck frame) and just huge overall. The navigator is over 5" taller than the huge X7!!!
Navigator
Wheelbase 122.5
Length 210
Width 79.9
Height 76.4
X7
Wheelbase 122.2 (-0.3")
Length 203.3 (-6.7")
Width 78.7 (-1.2")
Height 71.1 (-5.3")
the major downside to the bof platforms being used is the suvs become really tall (to achieve usable interior height on top the truck frame) and just huge overall. The navigator is over 5" taller than the huge X7!!!
Navigator
Wheelbase 122.5
Length 210
Width 79.9
Height 76.4
X7
Wheelbase 122.2 (-0.3")
Length 203.3 (-6.7")
Width 78.7 (-1.2")
Height 71.1 (-5.3")
I wonder how many ford ads were placed in that issue.