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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
Sad, Lexus is giving up competing against the Germans.
Except the Germans will be cutting twin turbo V8's as well eventually. There are articles saying up to 75% of AMG models may disappear. Emission Standards don't care what emblem you have on your car.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 04:49 PM
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Guess I'll be keeping my 2008 LS460 for quite a long time then.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
used to be much higher than this before the 2014 IS came out. Lot of younger people bought those
Yeah, I was amazed by the market penetration with the 3IS. Many young people who I didn't even know were much into cars at all enjoyed the 3IS and some have mentioned it was the 3IS that got them interested in the sporty side of cars. One of them even picked up a GS F after lease end. This makes Lexus' surrender even more damning, because there's nothing for these people to move to as they become older and wealthier. I noticed many of them moved to Audi.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 09:25 PM
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It’s a shame. As I said in another thread, I have a deal on the table to lease an S560. One of the things that is holding me back is that my LS is the last V8 LS, and should I want to come back to Lexus, I’m not going to have a similar car to go back to...

Ive driven a bunch of 6 cyl cars and have tried to convince myself that they are fine...but they’re not. I want a V8.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It’s a shame. As I said in another thread, I have a deal on the table to lease an S560. One of the things that is holding me back is that my LS is the last V8 LS, and should I want to come back to Lexus, I’m not going to have a similar car to go back to...

Ive driven a bunch of 6 cyl cars and have tried to convince myself that they are fine...but they’re not. I want a V8.
Yes, V8's nicest, and atmospheric V8's at that.
Lexus 3.5 V6 is not as slick as Lexus V8.
Lexus 3.5 not as slick as old Lexus 3.0 nor Lexus 2.5 V6's either.
Just me though.
Sure atmospherics lack outright power and torque, but the throttle response, the delivery, the naturally flat torque curve and the NVH.
I would move straight from atmospheric internal combustion engines to BEV's....
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
literally everywhere.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
literally everywhere.
Quality and reliability are two different metrics. Panel gaps won't leave you stranded
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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Sigh, Lexus slowing fading into the sunset ala Infiniti. Our RX350 lease ends next year and I have been trying to coax her into a GV80, BMW X3 ETC as the successor. While she'd want another Lexus crossover I was telling her, everything in the lineup is ancient and behind the competition in tech etc. I can see many RX shoppers moving on to the GV80/GV70 once they debut.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 08:06 AM
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Get her to go drive the competitors. That’s all it’ll take.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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Go test drive a Model Y for giggles They don't have handlers so you can go wild for 30 min.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Get her to go drive the competitors. That’s all it’ll take.
Yes, that's the plan, have her drive and sample the tech and compare herself so it doesn't look like I am coercing her lol.
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Go test drive a Model Y for giggles They don't have handlers so you can go wild for 30 min.
Lol, that would be a much harder task to convince her, that or my bias against EV.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EXE46
Yes, that's the plan, have her drive and sample the tech and compare herself so it doesn't look like I am coercing her lol.Lol, that would be a much harder task to convince her, that or my bias against EV.
Don't have to buy but it's a hoot to beat on the demo car for 30 min. Test a Performance Y. It's faster than your M340
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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I will do that, wonder if they do test drivers now during the pandemic lol..
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 01:40 PM
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Yes they do.
Tesla store close by me and they are always busy with ppl waiting on either test drive or pick up new car.

The driving dynamics of the Model 3 i tested were superb. Steering weight, handling, power delivery etc were so impressive. The tech is light years ahead of all other cars - Nav display, adjustments for everything. Its just a cool car!

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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 02:01 PM
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The world is going to Hell in a Handbasket !!


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