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It started as a murmur from a distant land, but now our scouts are confirming the bad news: the biggest brand in Japan is killing all future development of V8 engines. We trust you Lexus/Toyota... but are you sure about this one?So, rumors from three months ago said Lexus was halting the development of the LC F super GT. It sounded really strange. Why kill the car that could drag race the best BMW and AMG models?
The LC F had even been spotted testing in Europe and looked to be in an advanced state of development, with the final design looking good. The F version of the GT would have been a spiritual successor to the awesome LFA and was rumored to have a twin-turbo V8 engine with about 600 horsepower.
Now, for Lexus itself, this isn't that big of a problem. The LC, as cool as it might be, represents only a drop in the ocean of sales. None of the crossovers they sell require a big, thirsty V8; the customers simply don't want that.
But the change has a huge impact on the largest vehicles sold by Toyota in America. For example, the new Toyota Tundra is probably going to have a turbocharged and hybrid versions of 3.0 or 3.5-liter V6 engines. We did complain about the mpg numbers on the current model, so at least they are going to improve on that.
Pulling V8s could potentially change the way we see some of their largest SUVs. Things like the Lexus LX, Toyota Sequoia and Land Cruiser are all known for reliability, lasting hundreds of thousands of miles without a problem. But I guess nobody buys a 4x4 just because it works for 20 years anymore.
I'm always an optimist...so maybe the LCF twin turbo V8 is already developed so its not considered a future engine?
We already saw the twin turbo v8 being tested. So Lexus / toyota is going to just burn all the money they used to develop that engine without giving it a chance?
Last edited by Blaze876; Aug 13, 2020 at 05:58 PM.
And this report was from before the TTV8 was killed off. Now both are dead.
If Lexus insists that the 3.5TT V6 is bespoke to the LS like some claim while trying to phase out the 5.0L NA V8, then I have no idea what they plan to do with their future high-power engine lineup other than misguided hybrid attempts like the one in the LS500h.
The future of the LF-1 Limitless is now also in question since it was supposed to debut with the TTV8.
Wealthy old people are usually the primary target audience of cars with twin turbo V8's. Most UX/NX/RX/ES drivers I've seen are people (mostly women) in their 30s and 40s.
Definitely pickup the remaining 5.0 V8s as there are very few left.
Lexus dealers are so bad to deal with though unless you're buying RX or ES. I inquired about LC500 and RCF with couple of dealers - no response, limited knowledge etc. Mind you these are cars sitting for over a year there....
I'm always an optimist...so maybe the LCF twin turbo V8 is already developed so ifs not considered a future engine?
We already saw the twin turbo v8 being tested. So Lexus / toyota is going to just burn all the money they used to develop that engine without giving it a chance?
They spent a bunch of $$$ on development and then cancelled it. Typical Toyota decision making - they can’t even spare $1 on anything fun if there is a possibility of a loss.
All i know are that values of LFAs will be going up like crazy in next 10 years.
They spent a bunch of $$$ on development and then cancelled it. Typical Toyota decision making - they can’t even spare $1 on anything fun if there is a possibility of a loss.
All i know are that values of LFAs will be going up like crazy in next 10 years.
The LFA is a stupidly overpriced rich toy anyway, always was.
Anyway, the story of the wasted development money isn't a new one. Remember (or heard of) Cadillac's Blackwing V8?
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