2021 Lexus IS
Lexus used to be both on the bleeding edge of tech and offering the best reliability and quality. 1994, first OBD-II engine, of course the original LS transformed the auto industry. The original SC is a masterpiece. Prius, way ahead of everyone else although sadly Toyota let their hybrid tech languish instead of using it to transition to full electric. Original RAV4 Toyota invented a whole new class of vehicle.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
Lexus used to be both on the bleeding edge of tech and offering the best reliability and quality. 1994, first OBD-II engine, of course the original LS transformed the auto industry. The original SC is a masterpiece. Prius, way ahead of everyone else although sadly Toyota let their hybrid tech languish instead of using it to transition to full electric. Original RAV4 Toyota invented a whole new class of vehicle.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
Originally Posted by timmy0tool
toyota did a RAV4 full electric pretty early on, but that one had so many bugs and poor range there were not that many takers.
Lexus used to be both on the bleeding edge of tech and offering the best reliability and quality. 1994, first OBD-II engine, of course the original LS transformed the auto industry. The original SC is a masterpiece. Prius, way ahead of everyone else although sadly Toyota let their hybrid tech languish instead of using it to transition to full electric. Original RAV4 Toyota invented a whole new class of vehicle.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
The auto market is very different then when Toyota and Lexus were in their magnum opus phase.
I feel like Lexus and Toyota in general has been falling behind since Akio took over. Lots of wasted time and resources. $1b loom, now a racetrack, RC, LC500, GSF, poorly executed LS, IS on its 4000th refresh, GS dead, GX on its 3000th refresh, LX on its 8000th refresh, poor infotainment system, poor fuel economy, engine performance below the competition but hey the price is still up there, NX isnt aging well, UX...why?, ES250 AWD...why?,
Toyota had two different EV RAV4s at two different generations They were only available as a lease..
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Sep 24, 2020 at 01:08 PM.
The Tesla powered RAV4 EV was NOT lease only. They were initially only offered for sale/lease in California. These were a hoot to drive. I loved taking one out whenever I had the chance. Tesla-like instant power, FWD and an open diff meant plenty of inside tire spinning on corners. These sat on dealer lots for a very long time. Many dealers requested Toyota to take them back. There were super discounted employee leases at the time for anyone that really needed the HOV sticker and could deal with the ultra short EV range. There are 11 used ones on Cars.com now.
False! Toyota is a massive company so of course many can't compete with their sheer size. Also Toyota's profit was global, not NA where sales fell. Tesla for one has turn a profit each quarter this year and they're nowhere the size of Toyota. Toyota is best compared with VW. Anyhow for second quarter Ford also reported profit of 1.1 billion .
Last edited by EXE46; Sep 24, 2020 at 02:31 PM.
False! Toyota is a massive company so of course many can't compete with their sheer size. Also Toyota's profit was global, not NA where sales fell. Tesla for one has turn a profit each quarter this year and they're nowhere the size of Toyota. Toyota is best compared with VW. Anyhow for second quarter Ford also reported profit of 1.1 billion .
Btw Tesla is still in nett deficit overall as its initial massive expenditure has not been recouped by its later smaller earnings. Some analysts say Tesla is still in its "cash burning" phase in order to gain market share.
Last edited by natnut; Sep 24, 2020 at 11:26 PM.















