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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 06:51 AM
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All of that does make more sense lol
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 07:15 AM
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All of that does make more sense lol

Yes, it would have helped if we knew that the original article was not in U.S. dollars. Bit pointed that out.

Lots of comments here about the new Escalade's interior. Yes, it looks good in images, but don't forget that GM, like past-generation Lincolns, has a way of using cheap materials inside to mimic more expensive ones. We know that the new Navigator/Aviator/Corsair are solidly built inside (the bean-counters did not skimp on them)....almost all of us who have looked at it or sampled them agree. Whether the new Escalade is or not remains to be seen....I won't comment on it any further until I sit inside of it.

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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 07:19 AM
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I agree with that...
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 07:20 AM
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For exterior styling, I have no strong opinions between the Escalade and the Navigator. Perhaps a slight preference toward the Escalade. I do find this new Escalade to be massively better looking than the outgoing model, which I never liked.

As for the interior, I like the looks/styling of the Escalade better than the Navigator, but I really hate touchscreens so for day to day use, I'd probably prefer the Navigator.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 07:27 AM
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As for the interior, I like the looks/styling of the Escalade better than the Navigator, but I really hate touchscreens so for day to day use, I'd probably prefer the Navigator.
Interesting that you would say that, because, in the Navigator, that is one of its (admittedly) very few weaknesses.....the touchscreen housing, though durable and made of solid materials, juts out at you with that tacked-on look.

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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, it would have helped if we knew that the original article was not in U.S. dollars. Bit pointed that out.

Lots of comments here about the new Escalade's interior. Yes, it looks good in images, but don't forget that GM, like past-generation Lincolns, has a way of using cheap materials inside to mimic more expensive ones. We know that the new Navigator/Aviator/Corsair are solidly built inside (the bean-counters did not skimp on them)....almost all of us who have looked at it or sampled them agree. Whether the new Escalade is or not remains to be seen....I won't comment on it any further until I sit inside of it.
Last generation had very good materials and a very nice interior. A MT staffer said he had never seen a nicer interior in an American vehicle, ever.

I'm confident this new one will hold its own.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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The key words are "in an American vehicle"

The interior of the outgoing Escalade wasn't impressive at all.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The key words are "in an American vehicle"

The interior of the outgoing Escalade wasn't impressive at all.
That's not the general consensus from most professional sources, they say with the last gen Cadillac finally got the interior right.

I've never looked up close, though.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The interior of the outgoing Escalade wasn't impressive at all.

While far better than in early-generation Escalades, it clearly wasn't in the same league with the latest Navigator. Like I said earlier, though, I'll refrain from more comments on the current Escalade's interior until I actually see it.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Last generation had very good materials and a very nice interior. A MT staffer said he had never seen a nicer interior in an American vehicle, ever.

I'm confident this new one will hold its own.
I seem to remember it won the the comparo among the LX, MB and Lincoln at the time.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Interesting that you would say that, because, in the Navigator, that is one of its (admittedly) very few weaknesses.....the touchscreen housing, though durable and made of solid materials, juts out at you with that tacked-on look.

i don't think lincoln could have made an infotainment screen with bigger black "bezel" areas if they'd used a 10 yr old fisher price tablet.
Looks more like an etch-a-sketch

and yeah, jutting out not my thing either.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i don't think lincoln could have made an infotainment screen with bigger black "bezel" areas if they'd used a 10 yr old fisher price tablet.
Looks more like an etch-a-sketch
I agree it looks like an old Etch-a-Sketch screen (I had one when I was a kid), but, trust me, it certainly does not feel like one. The housing, materials, and mounting for that screen, though tacky-looking, were clearly not dictated by the bean counters (and it's about time) . That screen is mounted to last.

On the other hand, GM, though famous in the past for sub-standard interior materials, takes the time and effort to integrate the screens into the dash, and avoid the Etch-a-Sketch look altogether.
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I agree it looks like an old Etch-a-Sketch screen (I had one when I was a kid), but, trust me, it certainly does not feel like one. The housing, materials, and mounting for that screen, though tacky-looking, were clearly not dictated by the bean counters (and it's about time) . That screen is mounted to last.

On the other hand, GM, though famous in the past for sub-standard interior materials, takes the time and effort to integrate the screens into the dash, and avoid the Etch-a-Sketch look altogether.
I think it if people are going to make fun of bezels, then they should post bezels of other brands as well
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Personally speaking, the Navigator at this point looks dated...



I think the Corolla hard buttons make the tablet look excellent.

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I seem to remember it won the the comparo among the LX, MB and Lincoln at the time.
Yep, MT comparo. FWIW the "old" LX took 3rd.

"The Escalade Platinum's interior is the group consensus for best in test. Frankly, I'm shocked at the quality. As are the others. Seabaugh sums up what we liked so much: "The Escalade has gorgeous, supple leather and great wood trim." Says Burgess: "This is the Cadillac of Cadillac interiors. The brown leather with contrast stitching makes the interior pop with luxury." I'll go so far as to say it is the highest-quality interior from a materials perspective I've ever seen in an American car."

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/cadi...e-luxury-suvs/

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Yep, MT comparo. FWIW the "old" LX took 3rd.

"The Escalade Platinum's interior is the group consensus for best in test. Frankly, I'm shocked at the quality. As are the others. Seabaugh sums up what we liked so much: "The Escalade has gorgeous, supple leather and great wood trim." Says Burgess: "This is the Cadillac of Cadillac interiors. The brown leather with contrast stitching makes the interior pop with luxury." I'll go so far as to say it is the highest-quality interior from a materials perspective I've ever seen in an American car."

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/cadi...e-luxury-suvs/
Yeah...thats the article. I remember it very well. I always liked the Escalade interior.....Can't stand RR, or the Mercedes, unibody stuff just does not do it for my household...Can't stand the QX either.

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