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Yeah. I agree. Toyota powertrains were not quite where GM was at the time.
uhh... what? 90s toyota had possibly the best powertrains ever! you had things like 1UZ, 2JZ, 1MZ, 1FZ (what's in your LX 450) etc... it was often known for the bodies / frames to start going but the engine would keep going
basically everything about 90s GM (actually just GM in general) is just cheap plastic junk... you had cars with a 5.7 liter V8 that barely made 250 hp, the same figure toyota was able to get from a V8 nearly 2 whole liters smaller while being even more reliable
even the 3800 makes terrible figures for its size, and are known to eventually start leaking coolant internally from it's plastic intake manifold to the point that the engine can hydrolock, it's also just horribly antiquated
uhh... what? 90s toyota had possibly the best powertrains ever! you had things like 1UZ, 2JZ, 1MZ, 1FZ (what's in your LX 450) etc... it was often known for the bodies / frames to start going but the engine would keep going
basically everything about 90s GM (actually just GM in general) is just cheap plastic junk... you had cars with a 5.7 liter V8 that barely made 250 hp, the same figure toyota was able to get from a V8 nearly 2 whole liters smaller while being even more reliable
even the 3800 makes terrible figures for its size, and are known to eventually start leaking coolant internally from it's plastic intake manifold to the point that the engine can hydrolock, it's also just horribly antiquated
They are good but not as spec competitive. We have two 90s powertrains. They are super long lasting, smooth and well built. But they lack competitive power. I think our LX is 210hp and my 4Runner is 235hp in 2004. General Motors was clearing far better power figures in the 90s. I think GMs 4.8 was at 285hp in 1998
We have two 90s powertrains. They are super long lasting, smooth and well built. But they lack competitive power.
That may be one reason why they are long-lasting. Lower power often means less stress on the engine's internals, unless people floor the pedal all the time trying to make up for that lack of power....and something tells me, from watching how you posted for the last 9-10 years, that you usually don't drive that way.
That may be one reason why they are long-lasting. Lower power often means less stress on the engine's internals, unless people floor the pedal all the time trying to make up for that lack of power....and something tells me, from watching how you posted for the last 10 years, that you usually don't drive that way.
Nonsense. It’s engineering. An engine is either designed to last a certain interval, or not. If you want a car that last a long time, but a Toyota, if you don’t, go someplace else.
They are good but not as spec competitive. We have two 90s powertrains. They are super long lasting, smooth and well built. But they lack competitive power. I think our LX is 210hp and my 4Runner is 235hp in 2004. General Motors was clearing far better power figures in the 90s. I think GMs 4.8 was at 285hp in 1998
that 4.8 liter wasn't really used until the early 00s i don't think an engine that was first used in 1999 can even really count as a 90s engine, i will concede though that the non-vvti 2UZ is down on power but is SO reliable and torquey that it's excusable
also according to the almost always accurate wikipedia, the 4.8 in 1999 only made 255 hp and wasn't until a few years later it was rated at 285
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