Would you consider a well-equipped Telluride SX instead of a Palisade Limited? I know you prefer the Palisade's looks (so do I), but the Telluride is the same platform, same warranty, same drivetrains, and pretty much the same mechanicals, except for a different dash, front-end styling, and suspension tuning. In this area, Kia shops, for some reason, seem to be a little more willing to deal than Hyundai....but don't expect them to be giving them away, as these are popular vehicles.

Unless your lease is up and your wife has to have something new very soon, I suspect that the GV80 will be worth the wait....but whether you can get one on a $750 lease remains to be seen. I wouldn't bet on it.

 

Haha that monthly has got to be a joke.

BMW X7s at least the leftover 19s with stickers of 79K
go for 36/10k at mid 700s.

 

Telluride won’t solve the issue, same scarcity and same numbers.

No joke, did the numbers myself. It’s because of the over MSRP pricing and the high MFs. Residual is 61% which is quite good but the MF is .00165.

No doubt for $750 one could lease a more expensive vehicle with better lease terms. X7 would be one I would look at.

 

Also, check this out....Not sure what the catch might be (if any), but Hyundai is offering lease rates starting as low as $339 for Palisade Limiteds, with $3499 down. Good through March 31st.

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/bui.../#/36262A1O0H0

 

That payment isn’t for a Limited, that’s a base model
car. Look at the MSRP in the see details, $32,800 or so

I was originally confused about that too. That would be an amazing payment on a $48k car.

A good lease on one of these would be $600 a month or so $0 drive off. The Pacifica was MSRP $49,800 $530 $0 drive off. That was huge money off MSRP though. No way to get there with the current numbers.

 

So playing around with the math, if I could find one for MSRP, with taxes out of pocket I’m at $660 a month. $703 just first payment down.

 

@SW17LS I don't think you're not in a huge rush - I would definitely wait. The inventory of Pallisades is improving. There are 470 of them available within 50 miles of Chicago, with 138 of them being Limited AWD. Sooner of later the dealers will start to deal. But as usual - the lease deals suck due to high MF and lack of incentives. Only one of the Limiteds is advertised below MSRP ($1600 below).

 

are they back producing again? There was an article a while back where the SK Hyundai plant where the Palisade is made shutdown because they couldnt get wiring harness and other parts because of the coronoavirus shutting down factories in china

 

I don't really lease, but I do know that advertised lease rates are a joke to lure in people that don't know anything about leasing. Many of those rates (particularly GM's advertised rates) are low-mileage leases for 10,000 mi/yr.

 

i believe they're produced for u.s. at least, in Georgia. But yes, lack of chinese wiring harnesses could be an issue.

 

Telluride is produced in the US, Palisade is produced in South Korea

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/04/...a-coronavirus/

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/...ml?idxno=40392

 

$1,600 below is a great discount. Yeah I have until November, I'm not in any rush. Production has been stopped though because of the coronavirus which will tighten supply back up.

Not producing again yet

As was said above, the Telluride is made in the US but the Palisade is still made in Korea.

 

Palisade / Telluride are great. On paper. Tremendous values and great specs. Also the Limited / SX trims (top of the line) are very good cars when inspected in person. Not Lexus quality (Lexus quality on paper, but when you sit in it, just a little below) but very nice. Nicer than comparable American cars like the Explorer.

But... test drive reviews on youtube are unanimously laudatory and I don't see how this is possible. Both cars feel less substantial when driving them. They don't have that consistent feeling of a well built car. And the biggest issue is the wind noise. Major problem with the Palisade and also some Tellurides. Google it. It's a horror show. I always ask Palisade owners on the street about the wind. Two out of three say there is wind noise. Probably talked to 10+ owners. Sometimes it's there off the lot, other times after 2-5K miles. Some issue with the driver's side door / seals / brackets / window / nobody seems to really know. The test drives that I did (both Palisade and Telluride) did not seem to have wind noise, but had nowhere near the comfort or quietness claimed on virtually all youtube reviews.

There are also some other issues as well, all related to poor build quality (seats in the back squeaking while you're driving, etc.). I really wanted to buy one of these two cars, as the specs are outstanding and I wanted the third row. They have so much room inside and the third row is not a joke like in practially all other SUVs. Love the Palisade interior and prefer the Telluride exterior. All in all, I like the Palisade better, but the Telluride being built in Georgia and the wind issue not as big (based on online reviews), I would probably lean towards the Telluride.

I would easily pay $10K more if these cars were built well. I'm coming from a Lincoln MKX and was hoping for a usable third row, while maintaining a quiet and smooth ride. But I will probably pull the trigger on a RX 450h (and forego the third row and all that beautiful space) or wait until the 2021 models when hopefully they will resolve these issues. Kudos to Hyundai and Kia in designing the specs, but still need lots of work in the execution...

Also, the Hyundai and Kia dealers are giving great deals on all trims other than the top end Limited / SX. This probably explains the great lease offers mentioned in earlier posts - they are for the lower trims. All the demand seems to be in the top trims, lots of lower trim cars sitting on the lots, just like the Santa Fe which they can't seem to give away... Test drove top of the line Santa Fe as well, at least two levels below the RX (which, in all fairness, is more expensive). FYI

 

While my opinion of them is not as low as yours (I still see them as basically nice products), I cannot completely disagree with what you are saying....your point of view does indeed have some merit. I've remarked, several times, that I thought the build and hardware-solidness of these twins (particularly on the Telluride) was not quite up to the level of other recent Hyundai and Kia products. I've also noticed it, to an extent, on the even newer Kia Seltos. Perhaps (?), after years of producing some of the most solidly-built vehicles for the money, the Koreans are finally being forced into cost-cutting.

 

I'm not familiar with Kia / Hyundai products, other than knowing a friend who loves her Kia Sorento. With the Palisade, I think they rushed the product out the door as they were already behind other competitors (ex: re-designed Explorer, Traverse / Enclave already out). Also they tried to jam too much value in the offering, instead of either keeping it simpler or going up in price, but in either case having impeccable execution. I'm guessing their strategy was to reach out to the lower budget buyers and get them to move up to this price range with all the goodies (tech) offered. Based on what I've seen in terms of sales (everyone rushing to Limited and SX, lower trims sitting on the lot), it seems like a lot of higher end buyers went down in price to get this product. Lincoln, Audi, Lexus buyers. In this scenario, they would've been better off pushing the price up a bit (up to $10K maybe) but offer a more solid car. Good build quality, solid (soft close) doors, double-pane windows all around, etc. And no issues like they're having now.

The new Genesis GV80 doesn't have the Palisade / Telluride dimensions, which in my opinion are the sweet spot in the 3-row SUV category. Lots of room in 2nd and 3rd rows without having to captain a boat (Navigator, Escalade, etc.). If they were to build the Telluride to Genesis quality level, it would make a huge difference and they could price it higher. I don't own a Genesis, but I test drove the G80 and it felt solid and was smooth and quiet, and everyone I ask about their car (G80 and G90) is really satisfied, no issues.

BTW - The new Sorento looks very interesting, also 3 rows, re-designed, and hybrid too. It's a smaller car, but the overall space in the 3 rows is still acceptable and better than the Explorer (I believe). But frankly, after the Palisade / Telluride debacle, I would be very wary until the second year of production...