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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I'm not going to second-guess Forbes. .
I would second guess.

Below is from a US Government website:

"This deal encourages United States manufacturing and regional economic growth by requiring that 75 percent of auto content be made in North America."

https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-off...ada-trade-fa-0
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 05:38 PM
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I would second guess.

Below is from a US Government website:

"This deal encourages United States manufacturing and regional economic growth by requiring that 75 percent of auto content be made in North America."

https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-off...ada-trade-fa-0
Well, since the thread is about the new Blazer, we can argue the tariff (if applicable) effect all night, but the only thing that will actually show us what will happen is the pricing itself, and there are some mixed signs on that. Base versions start at a reasonable 28K, but I've seen loaded ones (advertised) listing at 50K or above.

I say "advertise" because I have not actually seen one in person. I plan to look at one next week, probably later in the week. I'll do a brief write-up on what I see, but probably not a full review.
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 05:45 PM
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Well, since the thread is about the new Blazer, we can argue the tariff (if applicable) effect all night, but the only thing that will actually show us what will happen is the pricing itself, and there are some mixed signs on that. Base versions start at a reasonable 28K, but I've seen loaded ones (advertised) listing at 50K or above.

I say "advertise" because I have not actually seen one in person. I plan to look at one next week, probably later in the week. I'll do a brief write-up on what I see, but probably not a full review.
Ok, there is no argument between us. There are no tariffs on Mexican built cars a long as the content is at 67.5%. The new 75% content is not in effect yet. Forbes is wrong.

The Blazer at the auto show was $55K Not worth it.
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Ok, there is no argument between us. There are no tariffs on Mexican built cars a long as the content is at 67.5%. The new 75% content is not in effect yet. Forbes is wrong.

The Blazer at the auto show was $55K Not worth it.
$55K, no matter how feature filled the Blazer is, is ludicrous. Especially being Mexican built. It's insulting.

The only 3-row non-luxury crossover that will top that price is top end trims of the new Explorer which will be much more vehicle. I mention that because the Blazer isn't even a 3-row. It would be overpriced if it topped out at $45K.
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The Blazer at the auto show was $55K Not worth it.
I'll withhold judgement on that until I see it in person (probably later next week), but I got a feeling I'm going to agree with you that 55K is too much, even for the top-line model. One can get a Buick flagship Enclave SUV for that.
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
$55K, no matter how feature filled the Blazer is, is ludicrous. Especially being Mexican built. It's insulting.

The only 3-row non-luxury crossover that will top that price is top end trims of the new Explorer which will be much more vehicle. I mention that because the Blazer isn't even a 3-row. It would be overpriced if it topped out at $45K.
That's in Canuck pesos. In the US it will be much cheaper than that. Inflated MSRP for the first adopters is the usual business model. $35K USD after deep discounting might be the norm for a top of the line loaded vehicle, once people figure out this is not a RWD Blazer. But so many better options at $45ish USD.
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
$55K, no matter how feature filled the Blazer is, is ludicrous. Especially being Mexican built. It's insulting.
what does it being made in mexico have to do with anything? That sounds xenophobic. Would you have the same issue if it was made in canada, germany, or china?
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyG
That's in Canuck pesos. In the US it will be much cheaper than that. Inflated MSRP for the first adopters is the usual business model. $35K USD after deep discounting might be the norm for a top of the line loaded vehicle, once people figure out this is not a RWD Blazer. But so many better options at $45ish USD.
I can see where they could run 55K in U.S. dollars. A dealership not far from me, in Northern Virginia, has several Premier models listing at 51K. The Internet (asking) price is 49K.

https://www.pohankachevrolet.com/search/new-blazer-chantilly-va/?cy=20151&tp=new&md=541
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what does it being made in mexico have to do with anything? That sounds xenophobic. Would you have the same issue if it was made in canada, germany, or china?
Or maybe it has to do with the cost savings of outsourced labor at $2/hr not being passed on to the buyer of this vehicle.
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what does it being made in mexico have to do with anything? That sounds xenophobic. Would you have the same issue if it was made in canada, germany, or china?
You misunderstand, it's an insulting price because Mexico labor rates are much lower than US, Germany, Japan, etc. and it's priced higher than competing vehicles built in those countries.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna


what does it being made in mexico have to do with anything? That sounds xenophobic. Would you have the same issue if it was made in canada, germany, or china?
Some people view the origin of something as important. I think this was discussed many times
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Originally Posted by MattyG
That's in Canuck pesos. In the US it will be much cheaper than that. Inflated MSRP for the first adopters is the usual business model. $35K USD after deep discounting might be the norm for a top of the line loaded vehicle, once people figure out this is not a RWD Blazer. But so many better options at $45ish USD.
Cars under $50K are closer to par now in Canada or in the USA
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
You misunderstand, it's an insulting price because Mexico labor rates are much lower than US, Germany, Japan, etc. and it's priced higher than competing vehicles built in those countries.
i never considered the second part of your statement. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Even if the accurate adjusted price in USD is more like $45K for higher trims, you can still get into a similar sized Lexus RX or Acura RDX.
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Old Mar 3, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
You misunderstand, it's an insulting price because Mexico labor rates are much lower than US, Germany, Japan, etc. and it's priced higher than competing vehicles built in those countries.

Well, let's see. In spite of its Mexican production with cheap labor, maybe (?) there is a legitimate reason why top-line models run 50K and up (yes, in U.S. dollars). Maybe (?) GM is actually using some decent materials in its construction instead of dime-store plastics. Like I told Jill, I'm going to look one over in a couple of days.
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