2019 Toyota Supra
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Long Island
Why do you keep posting here again, seems this car is getting under your skin, so weird though I've seen that reaction from other MKIV owners which I sort of expected but you're just a fan at this point. Would you have bought a $90K in house Toyota Supra with 6MT, 3JZ, 600HP, whatever else you online car designers and engineers want on it?
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so do you think the ride is nice enough? is it something you'd be happy spending many hours in at a time? and yes i know that there's a thing called dynamic suspension, my car has it... but even in the airmatic DC sports 2 setting it's still far from something you'd want to take on a track, and i worry that the zupra's comfort setting will still be too track prioritized
If you're that concerned about the ride, go drive one.
I do agree that the hate you're posting about the car is annoying, and has become trolling.
Lead Lap
Joined: Jan 2003
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From: Maryland
If $90k is ok with you, buy the Zupra and put in a built 2JZ then? Realistically, if they built such a car it'd be more like $120k+ (just look at the RC-F track edition as reference). But hey, I can always kick, scream, and pout that the new Tesla roadster isn't offered at 60k either, I guess....
So are Bimmer owners butthurt that the Zupra is a better Bimmer then they have now, save for 100k+ models?
So are Bimmer owners butthurt that the Zupra is a better Bimmer then they have now, save for 100k+ models?
I don’t know if Bimmer owners are butthurt because I don’t know anyone that actually bought a Z4 and I haven’t seen one on the road. I am happy with the engine my sedan has though, can’t complain there.
Lexus Test Driver
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From: Long Island
Your car with dynamic suspension is extremely old, and its an air suspension which is totally different. Technology has improved in 15 years.
If you're that concerned about the ride, go drive one.
I do agree that the hate you're posting about the car is annoying, and has become trolling.
If you're that concerned about the ride, go drive one.
I do agree that the hate you're posting about the car is annoying, and has become trolling.
and of course suspension technology has improved, which is why i've asked mr. st430 how he feels about the ride and whether or not the fancy CVSAe works as advertised
well people replied to me so i don't wanna be rude and not reply to them lol... but to answer your final question yes, that whole last sentence sounds awesome, i'd have no problem even if the 3JZ was a modified version of the TTV6 for the new LS since an I6 doesn't make as much sense as it did back then
i'd happily take a sports car, but the supra name should've been allowed to die peacefully, a remnant of another era... not brought back just for toyota to use as a marketing ploy
from what i've seen the zupra is more track oriented than the Z4, totally the opposite of how things should be, so why wouldn't one just get the Z4? two things i loved about driving the MK IV were how comfortable it was and how it was actually somewhat spacious inside, the zupra has neither of those and really isn't even any faster... if toyota is gonna call a car the supra, it had better be something that won't lose to a GT-R if one pulls up next to you on the highway
most of my criticisms of this car just have to do with how it's named lol
from what i've seen the zupra is more track oriented than the Z4, totally the opposite of how things should be, so why wouldn't one just get the Z4? two things i loved about driving the MK IV were how comfortable it was and how it was actually somewhat spacious inside, the zupra has neither of those and really isn't even any faster... if toyota is gonna call a car the supra, it had better be something that won't lose to a GT-R if one pulls up next to you on the highway
most of my criticisms of this car just have to do with how it's named lol
no trolling has occurred, but to hopefully act as a deterrent for others who might be interested lol
and i'll obviously have to keep dreaming since toyota is apparently happy taking the cheap lazier route these days (aka making the 'smart' business decision, which i guess you can't blame someone for)
and i'll obviously have to keep dreaming since toyota is apparently happy taking the cheap lazier route these days (aka making the 'smart' business decision, which i guess you can't blame someone for)
well i haven't driven a zupra yet so i guess i can't comment on the ride quality... but compared to its 'predecessor' the zupra is more cramped and less comfortable inside, and this focus on the track and lap times leads me to believe that the ride will be quite firm and not very grand tour-y like a supra... i'm glad the RC lost, that most likely means it's much more comfortable (like a lexus ought to be)
with the money these zupras are selling for one could basically get a GT-R at that point which is the actual track weapon, but not something you'd be happy spending time in for a several hundred mile journey... the supra however is a great long distance cruiser, an aspect i worry is missing from the zupra
with the money these zupras are selling for one could basically get a GT-R at that point which is the actual track weapon, but not something you'd be happy spending time in for a several hundred mile journey... the supra however is a great long distance cruiser, an aspect i worry is missing from the zupra
i have sat in the zupra, and i've driven a MK IV (turbo)... also people like actually have paid 6 figures for a zupra, if the msrp was the price you could actually get the car for then it'd be pretty good value but i simply couldn't see paying the mark ups dealers are asking
the very first time i got into the zupra i accidentally bumped my head on the roof (after l0ling at me my former coworker tom was forced to concede that he previously had as well), and in the multiple MK IVs i've sat in i never did so that's gotta mean something lol
believe me i'm careful not to make serious comments on pure speculation, but all my years of experience make me think that the zupra isn't something you'd want to take out for a long drive... i'd love to be wrong about that though
the very first time i got into the zupra i accidentally bumped my head on the roof (after l0ling at me my former coworker tom was forced to concede that he previously had as well), and in the multiple MK IVs i've sat in i never did so that's gotta mean something lol
believe me i'm careful not to make serious comments on pure speculation, but all my years of experience make me think that the zupra isn't something you'd want to take out for a long drive... i'd love to be wrong about that though
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From: Long Island
Welcome to 2019, YouTubers post vids for views plain and simple. It's an income stream for some, no different then regular media the more views you get the more money so of course they title and have specific content. Look at how many videos are titled "First MKV Supra ........" If you rely on YouTube for information you're getting their version of it. Of course it's good clickbait to post about not finding the cars at msrp, it feeds right into people like you that are skeptical and mourning about the creation of this car.
i can't speak for the other youtubers who undoubtedly are guilty of doing what you described, but this guy at least was pretty rich before youtube and has plenty of other rich friends... you can skip like the first two minutes but i'll leave the video here and you can decide if i'm feeding into the clickbait
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i didn't just look at the video title you know... i literally watched as he scrolled through dozens of zupra listings almost none of which were advertised at msrp, and basically every dealer tried some dealership bs with him
i can't speak for the other youtubers who undoubtedly are guilty of doing what you described, but this guy at least was pretty rich before youtube and has plenty of other rich friends... you can skip like the first two minutes but i'll leave the video here and you can decide if i'm feeding into the clickbait
i can't speak for the other youtubers who undoubtedly are guilty of doing what you described, but this guy at least was pretty rich before youtube and has plenty of other rich friends... you can skip like the first two minutes but i'll leave the video here and you can decide if i'm feeding into the clickbait
For those that aren't fans of this car they can find the specific YouTube videos to feed their dislike anything from the steering rack issue to the recall of the 7 cars identified with welding issues and you guessed it the MSRP.
Intermediate
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From: Bay Area
Beautiful, Makes me miss my Supra. I had one with the Imperial Jade Mica color, but always found the Anthracite Metallic color to be very unique looking in person.
Pole Position
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From: Silicon Valley
Funny you say that, as my first MKIV was actually a 93' Anthracite TT 6speed. I never really got attached to that color, especially with all the MSB talk before lol....Quicksilver is probably my 2nd favorite color, but it is kind of demure for a Supra....
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but wait theres more, the actual video:
https://www.thedrive.com/news/30662/...-met-its-maker