2019 Toyota Supra
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I sat in a MKV it wasn't that bad as far as cramped and comfortable, maybe you should go sit in one or drive one vs just going off what you read online. Nothing wrong with a firm ride, most newer sports cars are firm in stock trim, the dampening options do offer some adjustment.
You're comparing a new MKV to a used GTR for $50K? 50K will get you a 2009-2010 GTR with at least 50K miles and hopefully bone stock and not abused. Have you owned a MKIV or driven one?
You're comparing a new MKV to a used GTR for $50K? 50K will get you a 2009-2010 GTR with at least 50K miles and hopefully bone stock and not abused. Have you owned a MKIV or driven one?
the very first time i got into the zupra i accidentally bumped my head on the roof (after l0ling at me my former coworker tom was forced to concede that he previously had as well), and in the multiple MK IVs i've sat in i never did so that's gotta mean something lol
believe me i'm careful not to make serious comments on pure speculation, but all my years of experience make me think that the zupra isn't something you'd want to take out for a long drive... i'd love to be wrong about that though
i have sat in the zupra, and i've driven a MK IV (turbo)... also people like actually have paid 6 figures for a zupra, if the msrp was the price you could actually get the car for then it'd be pretty good value but i simply couldn't see paying the mark ups dealers are asking
the very first time i got into the zupra i accidentally bumped my head on the roof (after l0ling at me my former coworker tom was forced to concede that he previously had as well), and in the multiple MK IVs i've sat in i never did so that's gotta mean something lol
believe me i'm careful not to make serious comments on pure speculation, but all my years of experience make me think that the zupra isn't something you'd want to take out for a long drive... i'd love to be wrong about that though
the very first time i got into the zupra i accidentally bumped my head on the roof (after l0ling at me my former coworker tom was forced to concede that he previously had as well), and in the multiple MK IVs i've sat in i never did so that's gotta mean something lol
believe me i'm careful not to make serious comments on pure speculation, but all my years of experience make me think that the zupra isn't something you'd want to take out for a long drive... i'd love to be wrong about that though
Tell me this if the stock block doesn't make 1000HP on a hero dyno pull is it considered a failure?
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MKV's can be bought at MSRP, it's easy to run with the idea that everyone is over paying if you have a negative view of the car. You will pick at anything price, recalls, looks etc....your comments are typical of those that aren't fans and that's fine just funny to see the car get picked apart because of the name it was given. The MKV is not a GT car they benchmarked the Cayman and that's that.
i do consider it a failure when you open the door to your new highly anticipated supra and are greeted by the exact same repetitive bonging you hear from a base 118i
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PS - I bought mine for a 1k over msrp, because it was a launch edition and I wanted an unlocked DMEs. I could of picked up a regular at msrp and spent $1k to unlock it, so same thing to me.
Why are u in this thread again if it's already a failure for you?
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Toyota tells you the faux air dams can be made functional but they really can’t and even if you do try and make them functional they really don’t add much benefit. There is a video of a guy named Jackie that tracked his car (before he wrecked it) on MKV forum that shows why the functionality of the air dams are BS.
On another note, I have the four door Supra (like how I did that) and I will say the engine is superb and someone has already done 12.08 at 114 bone stock with all season tires, no tricks, etc. Not too shabby. Some have dyno’d close to 400 at the wheels bone stock. when it is rated at 382 hp at the engine.
On another note, I have the four door Supra (like how I did that) and I will say the engine is superb and someone has already done 12.08 at 114 bone stock with all season tires, no tricks, etc. Not too shabby. Some have dyno’d close to 400 at the wheels bone stock. when it is rated at 382 hp at the engine.
Congrats on ur 4 door Zupra! Are you getting the convertible Zupra next or the Zupra SUV? Toyco should just buy out BMW and be done with it, since Bimmer owners hate Toyco basking in the limelight with the Zupra so much.....
idk i've seen people try to buy one at msrp but the dealers say no... effspot on YT posted a vid where he contacted over 40 dealers and not a single one agreed to even close to msrp
only if the stock GT-R block can do that haha... believe me i'm not one of those who says every supra needs 1000hp, i'd almost rather see it stock with the magical twin turbo system fully functional
i do consider it a failure when you open the door to your new highly anticipated supra and are greeted by the exact same repetitive bonging you hear from a base 118i
only if the stock GT-R block can do that haha... believe me i'm not one of those who says every supra needs 1000hp, i'd almost rather see it stock with the magical twin turbo system fully functional
i do consider it a failure when you open the door to your new highly anticipated supra and are greeted by the exact same repetitive bonging you hear from a base 118i
Why do you keep posting here again, seems this car is getting under your skin, so weird though I've seen that reaction from other MKIV owners which I sort of expected but you're just a fan at this point. Would you have bought a $90K in house Toyota Supra with 6MT, 3JZ, 600HP, whatever else you online car designers and engineers want on it?
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All 18 that are available in my area--at 9 different dealers--are advertised at straight MSRP, with one or two cars having had some dealer add-ons like ceramic coat and a clear bra added. But the vast majority are Premium with driver assist package, advertised at $56,140.
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I know the question wasn’t directed towards me but my answer is yes, hell yes. $90k would have been nice considering the MSRP of the GTR these days which are way overpriced. I think the sweet spot would be around $80-$85k for the GTR.
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So are Bimmer owners butthurt that the Zupra is a better Bimmer then they have now, save for 100k+ models?
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There's this thing they invented called dynamic suspension; In the normal setting, it's like a GT, and in the sports setting it is much former and appropriate for the track, but nowhere near GTR firmness. And on the RC-F, you would think a $100k car specifically made for the track ("track edition"), would run circles against a lesser $50k car, no? So ya, sorry, not sorry that the Zupra is a Bimmer in spirit still.
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At this point you're just a troll that will focus on anything you deem negative because of the name of the car. Toyota is not the same company they were in the 90's, they are actually better off now financially so yes the thinking at the top has actually changed where they don't risk building a in house Toyota Supra.
Why do you keep posting here again, seems this car is getting under your skin, so weird though I've seen that reaction from other MKIV owners which I sort of expected but you're just a fan at this point. Would you have bought a $90K in house Toyota Supra with 6MT, 3JZ, 600HP, whatever else you online car designers and engineers want on it?
Why do you keep posting here again, seems this car is getting under your skin, so weird though I've seen that reaction from other MKIV owners which I sort of expected but you're just a fan at this point. Would you have bought a $90K in house Toyota Supra with 6MT, 3JZ, 600HP, whatever else you online car designers and engineers want on it?
I honestly hoped that Toyco was going to do low cost lc500 twin withe the ls500 3.5 TT, but that would still be at least 90k+ to start and the complexities of that motor (v6) would be costly to upgrade (2x cost of everything basically like my q60). That's not even mentioning how heavy, front biased, and big it would be for the track on top of it.
I was a skeptic at first too, but after all the rave reviews and then first hand impressions from big tuners all over the country, I was sold!
Btw - another night out with my Zupra for dinner and when I came back out, 2 people were gawking taking videos of it. Struck a pleasant conversation with them since they were former MKIV owners as well. Sometimes, the attention is a bit much, but I only take it out Friday/Saturday so it's bearable.
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All 18 that are available in my area--at 9 different dealers--are advertised at straight MSRP, with one or two cars having had some dealer add-ons like ceramic coat and a clear bra added. But the vast majority are Premium with driver assist package, advertised at $56,140.
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people still get excited when they see one so i can't rest just yet lol
so do you think the ride is nice enough? is it something you'd be happy spending many hours in at a time? and yes i know that there's a thing called dynamic suspension, my car has it... but even in the airmatic DC sports 2 setting it's still far from something you'd want to take on a track, and i worry that the zupra's comfort setting will still be too track prioritized
if the zupra actually works well as a GT car then i can at least feel a bit better about that
so do you think the ride is nice enough? is it something you'd be happy spending many hours in at a time? and yes i know that there's a thing called dynamic suspension, my car has it... but even in the airmatic DC sports 2 setting it's still far from something you'd want to take on a track, and i worry that the zupra's comfort setting will still be too track prioritized
if the zupra actually works well as a GT car then i can at least feel a bit better about that