2019 Toyota Supra
08-02-18, 10:10 AM
#151
Lexus Fanatic
It all depends on how the Supra performs and the level of autonomy that Toyota has with the BMW hardware. If it can outperform the Z-whatever at a lower price with the same hardware, it can gloat a bit. Then again, the Z-whatever isnt exactly an iconic model to begin with.
08-02-18, 11:32 AM
#152
Pole Position
The Z is a more iconic name/history then the Supra, there is a lot of history with the Z and what it did for the Japanese auto industry but the current version is not its finest hour, I would take a 300ZX tt over the current Z, especially a Stillen. I am sure the new Supra will outperform a Z, the Z is not exactly setting the world on fire with its performance, 8 cylinder Mustangs easily outperform it.
08-02-18, 04:34 PM
#154
Reputation is not a quantifiable factor for us "bean counters", and we don't really have control over what assumptions to take/disregard. Blame the upper floor people for that.
08-03-18, 07:10 AM
#155
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Yes and us "bean counters" have a fiduciary duty to the board and investors to make sure the company doesnt go under. Especially when a CEO like Akio with his expensive infactuation with all things sports cars.
08-03-18, 08:15 AM
#156
08-03-18, 08:49 AM
#158
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08-03-18, 08:57 AM
#159
But otherwise, people liked Toyota GT86, even if it is almost exactly the same as Subaru. Z4 vs Supra will be much more different.
08-03-18, 10:09 AM
#160
For as much as people gripe that the new 3.5L TT V6 in the LS is too 'raucous', it would of made a good powertrain coupled with a 6MT and 10AT in the new Supra. I also would have given the motor to Yamaha and have them work their magic as they've done in the past working with Toyota / Lexus (2000GT, Celica, IS F, LFA).
08-03-18, 10:12 AM
#161
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For as much as people gripe that the new 3.5L TT V6 in the LS is too 'raucous', it would of made a good powertrain coupled with a 6MT and 10AT in the new Supra. I also would have given the motor to Yamaha and have them work their magic as they've done in the past working with Toyota / Lexus (2000GT, Celica, IS F, LFA).
08-03-18, 10:46 AM
#162
08-03-18, 11:02 AM
#164
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For as much as people gripe that the new 3.5L TT V6 in the LS is too 'raucous', it would of made a good powertrain coupled with a 6MT and 10AT in the new Supra. I also would have given the motor to Yamaha and have them work their magic as they've done in the past working with Toyota / Lexus (2000GT, Celica, IS F, LFA).
I wouldnt be surprised if the LS V6 was a Yamaha engine based on the supposedly weak low end response that a lot of reviewers are complaining about. That engine will definitely come alive with 2000lb less weight to haul around but how likely will Toyota open up the ECU to allow the level of tinkering that Supra owners are likely to do?
08-03-18, 11:07 AM
#165
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