The Z is a more iconic name/history then the Supra, there is a lot of history with the Z and what it did for the Japanese auto industry but the current version is not its finest hour, I would take a 300ZX tt over the current Z, especially a Stillen. I am sure the new Supra will outperform a Z, the Z is not exactly setting the world on fire with its performance, 8 cylinder Mustangs easily outperform it.

 

Sorry I was referring to the BMW Z series lol.

 

Whoops, my fault, the Supra is more iconic then the Z series then.

 

Reputation is not a quantifiable factor for us "bean counters", and we don't really have control over what assumptions to take/disregard. Blame the upper floor people for that.

 

Yes and us "bean counters" have a fiduciary duty to the board and investors to make sure the company doesnt go under. Especially when a CEO like Akio with his expensive infactuation with all things sports cars.

 

Is that you Steve, from two cubicles over?!

 

No I'm Mike sitting to the left of you

 

no disrespect meant to 'bean counters', you're quite right - but top management SHOULD factor in more than just hard costs. i truly believe toyota should not have bothered making this "bmw supra".

 

why? If anything, it might be bad for BMW, not Toyota.

But otherwise, people liked Toyota GT86, even if it is almost exactly the same as Subaru. Z4 vs Supra will be much more different.

 

For as much as people gripe that the new 3.5L TT V6 in the LS is too 'raucous', it would of made a good powertrain coupled with a 6MT and 10AT in the new Supra. I also would have given the motor to Yamaha and have them work their magic as they've done in the past working with Toyota / Lexus (2000GT, Celica, IS F, LFA).

 

that would have been amazing, but probably make the new supra even more expensive.

 

No offense taken! I'm just quite surprised to see that people see accounting as part of the decision-making group when we really are just one of the many pawns of the upper management in a corporate landscape.

 

 

Which would you rather have? A BMW Supra or a Supra with a V6? 1 has the traditional inline 6 the other is all Toyota.

I wouldnt be surprised if the LS V6 was a Yamaha engine based on the supposedly weak low end response that a lot of reviewers are complaining about. That engine will definitely come alive with 2000lb less weight to haul around but how likely will Toyota open up the ECU to allow the level of tinkering that Supra owners are likely to do?

 

too many upper management though look at 'the numbers' without consideration of any intangibles. john sculley did that with apple - it almost went out of business. jobs came back and didn't do that, 1T valuation now.