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- miles : ~1400 miles (weekends primarily)
- mods : downpipe, tune, wheels/tires (315/35s)
- HP : ~500whp (est)
- best time : 11.5 @126mph (street, traction limited)
- smiles : nonstop
- regrets : not being able to drive it more
Good : mods galore for power, looks, etc.
Bad : internet trolls that have no clue
Ugly : Traction woes even on 315 tires
Zupra is everything that I had expected and more : unquestionable modability in power and looks. Power is very easy to get in the platform, which on my own Zupra is now as fast as my previous 515whp Q60 (though not as quick yet). The looks and stares you get makes you think you own an exotic or something, or as my friend likes to say, it attracts more d@#$ than most chicks. As far as issues, none to report though the German ergonomics is sometimes annoying (4 buttons to turn headlights on and off?!!!). I'll be putting in my new turbo soon (this is a Supra after all), so should be eclipsing 600+ who by early next year.
Awesome car. How much can the ZF handle in terms of power?
- miles : ~1400 miles (weekends primarily)
- mods : downpipe, tune, wheels/tires (315/35s)
- HP : ~500whp (est)
- best time : 11.5 @126mph (street, traction limited)
- smiles : nonstop
- regrets : not being able to drive it more
Good : mods galore for power, looks, etc.
Bad : internet trolls that have no clue
Ugly : Traction woes even on 315 tires
Zupra is everything that I had expected and more : unquestionable modability in power and looks. Power is very easy to get in the platform, which on my own Zupra is now as fast as my previous 515whp Q60 (though not as quick yet). The looks and stares you get makes you think you own an exotic or something, or as my friend likes to say, it attracts more d@#$ than most chicks. As far as issues, none to report though the German ergonomics is sometimes annoying (4 buttons to turn headlights on and off?!!!). I'll be putting in my new turbo soon (this is a Supra after all), so should be eclipsing 600+ who by early next year.
Thanks for the update looking forward to more, I wouldn't worry about the Internet trolls many of them have no skin in the game with anything Supra related past or present.
the German ergonomics is sometimes annoying (4 buttons to turn headlights on and off?!!!).
Thanks for the update! Just leave the headlights on auto and never touch the buttons again. I like that most German cars can now electronically default to auto for headlights. So many cars with DRL's and instrument cluster displays and infotainment displays now, that people are driving without their headlights on, even if their cars have auto headlights, the stalk doesn't default to auto. I think you'll see more companies move to allow for default auto headlight control.
Someone with a M340 on 93 pump with tune only, no other mods, did 470whp. Pretty cheap horsepower for $600. The B58 engine is pretty nice but not really sure how long it could hold up at these levels.
The B58 came out in 2016ish and has already proven its reliability. They also added "TU" to the engine code, meaning they made a Technical Update to the engine already, which is in all 2020 Supra. BMW engines are by far, some of the best in the world, even with some of their known problems. For Ex. Almost 40% of their engines have at least one major flaw that could affect your pockets at around the 60k-120k mileage point. Now for the B58 I see tuned reliable HP and efficiency over the 100k mile point.
Last edited by Sean350nyc; Jan 31, 2020 at 12:24 PM.
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The B58 came out in 2016ish and has already proven its reliability. They also added "TU" to the engine code, meaning they made a Technical Update to the engine already, which is in all 2020 Supra. BMW engines are by far, some of the best in the world, even with some of their known problems. For Ex. Almost 40% of their engines have at least one major flaw that could affect your pockets at around the 60k-120k mileage point. Now for the B58 I see tuned reliable HP and efficiency over the 100k mile point.
How you treat and take care of your car transmission and engine goes a long way in these vehicles. Used to own a 13 335xi msport and man did I love that car. Even with all its flaws, they are great vehicles. Much more tuning capacity than expected with the perfect mix of luxury and comfort driving and the tip of your fingers. Most of the flaws can be worked around or corrected and avoided (atleast for a period of time) by taking PROPER care of them and giving it the respect it commands.
Although this was the engine that replaced the fantastic n55 bmw enthusiasts and forum members have generally agreed this engine corrected alot of the issue of the previous generation without much more complications. Thus not creating a slew of new issues while providing a more balanced not as thirsty engine.
2021 gets turbocharged i4, +47hp on the 3.0 i6, revised power steering, traction control, strut bar, retuned shocks, standard 8.8 inch screen. Wonder if this 47hp was actually a power bump or correctly advertising its power from being underrated
First year owners (at least the ones who don't tune) are going to be pissed that the 2021 gets the M40i variant of the engine.
Yeah. Strange thing to see. I don’t remember the last time I saw a Toyota have a different engine after just one year. Double Cab Tundra in the first gen was updated after just one model year.
Yeah. Strange thing to see. I don’t remember the last time I saw a Toyota have a different engine after just one year. Double Cab Tundra in the first gen was updated after just one model year.
also helps that it's not a Toyota either.
Nice, expected updates and the new 2021 special edition looks really cool!
