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Old 06-03-20, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
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Ridgeline starts at $34000 - I think that's the MAIN problem.
I think the Ridgeline exists to simply full capacity for the line that makes whatever else they make on the line. It’s kind of like how Sequoia fills in capacity for tundra. Hondas and Toyotas almost always have a price premium over a Hyundai anyways, so I would expect the Ridgeline to be where it is in the price point
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Old 06-03-20, 07:26 PM
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Really, if you want truck, Why not get a real one to begin with? A few w/ different engine/fuel options. Similar to a JK/JL which no other manufacturer can beat.....You either have one or you don't. Hydundai is better off, sticking to cars & suv's.....Possibly put the money towards the workers/employee's........
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Old 06-03-20, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix
Really, if you want truck, Why not get a real one to begin with?
Simple. Because a "Real" truck is not always necessary. Some people want (or need) a separate bed to carry bulky things, but don't need the heavy-duty characteristics (or the poor gas mileage) of a large or body-on-frame structure. For them, something like the Ridgeline or Santa Cruz is perfect.
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Old 06-03-20, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Simple. Because a "Real" truck is not always necessary. Some people want (or need) a separate bed to carry bulky things, but don't need the heavy-duty characteristics (or the poor gas mileage) of a large or body-on-frame structure. For them, something like the Ridgeline or Santa Cruz is perfect.
Yea, I could kinda see a unibody, but don't forget about the Dmax in the Colorado.....
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I think the Ridgeline exists to simply full capacity for the line that makes whatever else they make on the line. It’s kind of like how Sequoia fills in capacity for tundra. Hondas and Toyotas almost always have a price premium over a Hyundai anyways, so I would expect the Ridgeline to be where it is in the price point
So the Sequoia... built in INDIANA... fills in capacity for Tundra, built in TEXAS.... riiiiiight. Nice try. Go again.
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Old 06-04-20, 05:44 AM
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So the Sequoia... built in INDIANA... fills in capacity for Tundra, built in TEXAS.... riiiiiight. Nice try. Go again.
Current Tundra was built alongside the Sequoia in Indiana. When Toyota realized sales of the Tundra were never gonna pick up steam (when recession hit), they removed the Indiana Tundra production.


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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Current Tundra was built alongside the Sequoia in Indiana. When Toyota realized sales of the Tundra were never gonna pick up steam (when recession hit), they removed the Indiana Tundra production.
Current gen Tundra had very little production alongside the current generation Sequoia. Texas was completed in 2006, for the main bulk of the 2007 model year and onward Tundra production. So that would go against the idea that Sequoia, in any way shape or form, in the past 12+ years, has filled any sort of capacity for Tundra. Tacoma fills capacity in Texas for what Tundra was supposed to do.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Current gen Tundra had very little production alongside the current generation Sequoia. Texas was completed in 2006, for the main bulk of the 2007 model year and onward Tundra production..
Original intent was to manufacture alongside the Tundra. And that happened for 2 model years 07 and 08. Recession changed their plans.

But back to the Hyundai, I don’t think it will do very well vs the established trucks out there

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If Hyundai would make their truck a retro-mini-truck, fashioned after the Datsuns and Toyotas of the 70's and 80's, I think they could be wildly successful with it. But, they won't. Their concept looks to be going after Ridgeline, and borrowing from some of the styling ques of Tesla's truck concept. I believe there is a hungry American market for an inexpensive, frame-on-chassis, "tuff-truck." If someone, anyone, would build one, they (I) would come! Ideally, Toyota will go their first.
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
If Hyundai would make their truck a retro-mini-truck, fashioned after the Datsuns and Toyotas of the 70's and 80's, I think they could be wildly successful with it. But, they won't. Their concept looks to be going after Ridgeline, and borrowing from some of the styling ques of Tesla's truck concept. I believe there is a hungry American market for an inexpensive, frame-on-chassis, "tuff-truck." If someone, anyone, would build one, they (I) would come! Ideally, Toyota will go their first.
There are a few body on frame trucks, such as the Colarodo w/ the Bison package & then add the 2.8 Dmax, as well as you know the Tacoma & then can't forget about the Gladiator......
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Originally Posted by Felix
There are a few body on frame trucks, such as the Colarodo w/ the Bison package & then add the 2.8 Dmax, as well as you know the Tacoma & then can't forget about the Gladiator......
It was interesting Toyota had the entire segment all to itself as everyone abandoned it for a while
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
It was interesting Toyota had the entire segment all to itself as everyone abandoned it for a while
Very true, yea they did.....outside of the Frontier. To me the Tocoma is kinda cramped & I'm a regular size guy.
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Originally Posted by Felix
Very true, yea they did.....outside of the Frontier. To me the Tocoma is kinda cramped & I'm a regular size guy.
Totally forgot about the Frontier.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Totally forgot about the Frontier.
So did Nissan.
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Originally Posted by Felix
There are a few body on frame trucks, such as the Colarodo w/ the Bison package & then add the 2.8 Dmax, as well as you know the Tacoma & then can't forget about the Gladiator......
All the current "small" trucks are too big and too expensive. The key words are "mini" and "inexpensive" for a potential money maker.
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