Ok, sorry then- thought you were disagreeing with what I said.

 

Seems similar to reviews of the 1st gen when it was released. Now reviewers admit it isn't quite up to par, but promise the new one is Hyundai making a luxury brand would be a turning point, even with the 1st gen, as it shows their commitment. Seems to me they ran the numbers and decided the extra markup on the vehicle to cover the costs of a new brand would steer initial potential buyers away. IMO, shortsighted.

 

When we evaluated Hyundai’s 2015 Genesis V-6 sedan on the battered tarmac around our Michigan headquarters, we noted that the surface was perfect for analyzing the Lotus-tuned suspension. As for exploring the foul-weather usefulness of the Genesis’s newly available HTRAC all-wheel-drive system, our environs proved less helpful. Traction-reducing precipitation was nowhere to be found, especially that of the flaky, frozen variety that was all too prevalent last winter. Where’s a polar vortex when you need one?

Like AWD? Hope You Like a V-6, Too

Although we didn’t face any major traction issues during our test of the all-wheel-drive Genesis V-6, we did observe that Hyundai’s HTRAC setup never called attention to itself. This is unlike, for example, the Quattro system in our long-term Audi S7, which binds perceptibly in tight parking-lot maneuvers. Where HTRAC did make a difference, however, was in stifling wheelspin during hard launches.



HTRAC can only be paired with the Genesis’s standard 3.8-liter V-6, which makes 311 horsepower and 293 lb-ft of torque. (The available 5.0-liter V-8 makes 420 horsepower.) An eight-speed automatic transmission with a wide ratio spread helps keep the six on boil, though, and we managed to hit 60 mph in 6.2 seconds. Top speed is limited to 149 mph. Hyundai’s in-house eight-speed automatic isn’t as unobtrusive or telepathic as the bolt-action ZF-sourced eight-speeds in many BMWs, but the Hyundai gearbox makes up for the occasional flubbed downshift with its overall smoothness.

As we’ve found driving other Genesis models, the sedan’s steering is accurate but numb and the chassis is tuned for resolute understeer. HTRAC exaggerates the feeling of understeer, with our test driver noting it as “excessive” during skidpad testing. Even so, the all-wheel-drive Genesis hung on for a commendable 0.87 g, which turned out to be identical to the grip generated by the rear-drive model also tested. Even with the added all-wheel-drive hardware, the HTRAC Genesis V-6 managed to feel sprightlier than the Genesis V-8. (On our scales, the HTRAC Genesis V-6 weighed 85 pounds less than the rear-drive Genesis V-8—with most of that coming off the front axle.) Braking was only so-so, with the Hyundai hauling itself to a stop from 70 mph in a long-ish 172 feet.



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the v6 has been praised over the v8 a few times, because of it being lighter and more balanced.

 

It's about 700 lbs heavier than a CTS V6 with damn near the same performance.

 

how many cars have we heard that about

 

not on the 2gs

but yes, i think this is the problem on a lot of cars. even the isf, in terms of balance (especially on autox) i prefer the is350 over the isf. but i do believe with proper design v8 can still shine over v6

 

they did a comparo with with cadillac CTS and I don't see how anyone can opt for the CTS. the fully loaded one tops 70k and the 4 cylinder turbo goes for about 47k.

U can pretty much get a 2015 base well equipped for about 37k out the door now....I think

 

IS350 is downright nimble feeling compared to the IS F. The weight difference is noticable both in the turns and steering feel surely. When that 5.0 hits VVTi though

 

^^^ agree completely.

 

Those same BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, etc owners that trade for Hyundai will be getting a VERY rude shock to the system when they see their residual values over the next few years. Hyundai's have been horrible since their inception for residual values and have gotten no better even with the Genesis and Equus lines. I have owned many Hyundai's since my first one in 1989. Currently own a 2012 Genesis. I will be looking at the Lexus GS Hybrid once my lease from h*** is up with Hyundai. The price on the 2015 Genesis is such that I will not even consider it after my experience with this Genesis.

I predict those traders will be running back from Hyundai very quickly.

 

I have seen a few new Genesis here in Atlanta and am quite surprised by how sedate the design is in person. I would call it conservatively handsome in person, and definitely an upgrade over the last generation. Coming at me in the opposite lane, the front end looks a lot like the Chrysler 300 at first glance, but as it passes, the sharper angles start to come into focus.

Nice looking car though - and definitely pretty big!

 

this new genesis for me, is more similar to the bmw 6 series grand prix (or whatever it's called) and the mercedes CLS. It just has that vibe to me. I know I'm way off but that's just the feel that I get from it.

but u just get it for half the cost.

it's a pretty nicely built car and hyundai is making very little profit out of it.

 

I think the wave is starting to turn. The first wave of their truly new products like 2011 Sonata, etc, are JUST now coming back to the used market. Hyundai and Kia vehicles have made some big strides since your Genesis originally debuted back in the 09 time frame.

Currently the Hyundai Accent, Kia Soul and new Hyundai Santa Fe Sport are predicted to lead their respective segments in predicted residual value, and all are in some pretty competitive segments. This latest Genesis will likely continue the trend of much improved residuals vs the prior generation.

 

baseless accusation. i'm certain genesis/equus depreciation aren't any worse than germans or jaguar. many high end models not named LS depreciates like crazy. hell my best friend is a serious audi homer and he bought an 6 year old a8 for dirt cheap.

i remember elantra winning top residual awards few years ago, probably before the mpg fiasco. i don't know how they are doing now, but most likely they are probably average. somewhere between toyota/honda and domestics.