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Old May 8, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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love the music on this one

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Old May 8, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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^ that video is buried somewhere in this thread but yeah the music is cool, and I'd be a little apprehensive too. These pre-collision systems work, but still scare me
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Old May 9, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Default 2015 Hyundai Genesis first drive

Never mind the prestige, feel the price

2015 Hyundai Genesis (© Photo: Jeremy Sinek)

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But we’re picking nits here about fine-points of handling that will be meaningless to most potential Genesis customers. No longer is the Genesis a case of “80 percent as good as the competition for 50 percent of the price,” as a Hyundai insider once put it to me. For 2015, it’s more like “in the same league as the competition for about 75 percent of the price.”

For many buyers in this segment, parking a prestige nameplate in their driveway will always be worth the extra money. But if that’s not your mind-set, the compelling value proposition of the Genesis represents its own kind of prestige.

2015 Hyundai Genesis
Base price: $43,000 - $62,000
Type of vehicle: AWD luxury sports sedan
Engines: 3.8-litre 24V, DOHC, V6; 5.0-litre 32V, DOHC V8
Power/Torque: 3.8: 311 hp/293 lb.-ft.; 5.0 TT: 420 hp/383 lb.-ft.
Transmission: Eight-speed automatic
0-100km/h: N/A
Fuel consumption (city/hwy): TBA
Competition: Acura RLX, Audi A4/A6, BMW 3 Series/5 Series, Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac CTS, Chrysler 300, Infiniti Q50/Q70, Jaguar XF, Lincoln MKS, Mercedes C-Class/E-Class, Volvo S60/S80

PREVIEW SUMMARY

PROS
A lot of car for not a lot of cash
Standard all-wheel drive
Vastly improved ride and handling

CONS
Some switchgear looks a little low-rent
Rather generic styling
Steering response could be sharper
More at: http://autos.ca.msn.com/reviews/2015...?page=2#page=1
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Old May 9, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tantrix
I gotta say man at 38k start, this car looks pretty effing good.

the lexus GS and LS and even the ES have some REAL competition.

If I were in the market for a GS, Es or even the LS, I'd change my plans and go straight for this genesis. It is very very good looking
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Exactly.... I didn't even blink at it...
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Old May 9, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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But It does looks pretty dope

I like the Genesis interior a hell of a lot better.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 02:17 AM
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I like the Genesis interior a hell of a lot better.
That rear end is Sonata Grade boring.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 04:58 AM
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Here's my styling critique, of course based solely on pictures. It may likely be better in person.

Exterior:
Belt-line/side view reminds me heavily of the prior gen Infiniti M, the late Avalon and Impala.
Rear, Sonata, Elantra, and Impala - a little bland.



Front:
Some Chrysler 300 resemblance


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heavily based on the 5-series, which clearly the Genesis is after.





Overall Styling Not bad overall, but seems more derivative and less distinctive this generation than the last. The last gen was a little more unique to my eyes and also more "macho".



I find the "lesser" Azera's styling is more successful as it has more sculpted lines.

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Old May 10, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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I like the looks of the new Azera, but buyers haven't really warmed up to it for some reason. Maybe because it's sandwiched in between the Sonata (which outsells it many times over) and the Genesis (which outsells it about 3 to 1 in spite of its higher price point) that it gets lost in the shuffle. It did well in a couple of comparison tests with competitive models.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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I also likes the look of the Azera......but it has sold horribly.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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I'm continually impressed with what the korean car companies are doing these days. good on them, i don't care if they borrow some styling cues.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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there is no point on buying azera when you can just buy sonata or just buy bigger and more comfortable avalon or even buick.

if hyundai really wants to sell azera then it needs to get bigger. much bigger.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
Exactly.... I didn't even blink at it...
it really is not a crazy statement if you objectively think about it.

overall i think this genesis looks more 'mature' than GS. GS got much younger and bold. current lexus design direction is clearly love/hate. some really love it, some really hate the spindle grill.

i can see conservative crowd preferring genesis' exterior design over GS. but IMO, GS has clear interior design edge. that's just me. i think genesis' interior is way too vanilla

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Old May 10, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...undai-genesis/
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Old May 10, 2014 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
I also likes the look of the Azera......but it has sold horribly.
One of my neighbors just got a new Azera (she loves it)......and, of course, a bottle of SCRATCH-OUT. You are correct about the low sales...but that also means good deals.

Nice of a car that it is, though, IMO, it doesn't have the superb drive-dynamics of the new Impala...but Impalas are distinctly harder to deal on right now. The hype from Consumer Reports (IMO mostly but not totally justified) is stirring demand for Impalas.

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Old May 10, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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I'm not gonna lie, I was seriously considering the 2015 Genesis until I saw several quality issues with the interior of the 2013 model. If Genesis wants to play up to Lexus level, they'll need to address these fundamentals of quality and workmanship before they get my business.

Thats what's up.
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