[edited] from another forum

Most hate Toyota/Lexus and the other Japanese companies and Korean...and German...and......
Especially Lexus.



Lexus quality myth.....
So I have an '06 LS430, that I've complained about before. It is the ultra-luxury package, so it has all of the bells and whistles including air suspension. This was an $80k new, and we purchased it two years old for $35k. Seemingly good deal. Here's my rub. At 40k mileage one of the air suspension shock absorbers went out. Lexus balked, but in the end covered under 40k warranty. Fast forward to about 60k mileage; right front air suspension shock goes out, and I spring for the repair almost $2k for a friggin shock absorber........anyway

Fast forward to about 70k mileage, left rear goes out. Lexus covers the part, and I eat the labor under a one time customer appreciation. Cost me about $500. Fast forward to 80k mileage, the dang right rear that Lexus covered under customer appreciation, is out again. What a crap system. Only one that hasn't went out is the left front, which could go at anytime. So my options are to trade, replace bad component again (not happening in a million years).........or what I've been reading, is people have been changing the entire air suspension to the mechanical version for about $1800. This issue is so prevelant, that it is all over the Lexus boards. This is the only issue we have on a car that will probably run well into the 200k range. Our '98 LS 400 has done so relatively well. Anyway, I thought I would keep the car and change out the supension. I would have never guessed to have this much trouble. I had a '98 Expedition with air ride, and not a hint of trouble in 198k of driving........Lexus quality.........what a joke. Like I said it is not a lemon, problem is common on all of the air supsension cars. Just putting it out there for the masses.

 

ouch, guy's not full of hot air.

 

Having had a '69 Corvette show car for many years,I've been a member of that forum for a long time.
I sold the Vette a few years ago.Still peek the 'off topic' section.
Anyway,the hatred for Toyota/Lexus has been going on for years there.

 

Air shocks often fail, on any make/model that uses them. If you can't afford to maintain them, just get a standard model.

 

Dude, that's "one" car...
You can't superimpose your experience with one vehicle, onto every other vehicle.
Lexus is badass. Maybe your car was built on a Monday :\

 

06 ls430 80k new? doesn't sound right. if i remember correctly, 06 ls430 ul was around 65-67k?

 

actually the air suspension on that generation does go out every now and then, it's pretty well documented. so it's not just one car, granted his went out earlier on some corners. i will agree though if you get a car like this, you should be ready for fork out the bills. maintaining lexus is not cheap anymore

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I don't know that maintaining a lexus was ever cheap

Many, many moons ago I used to maintain the parts inventory application at TMS. One of the pricing calculations used to be that if it was a shared Toyota/Lexus part, automatically add 20% to the price for the "lexus" version

 

Please lets not start a cross forum war, if you want to share your opinions share them here, not on the other site.

 

together with labor cost, it used to be quite a bit cheaper than bmw, mb, audi. comparing it to toyota is not fair. but nowadays they are all about the same

 

Lexus quality myth?

How about Chevrolet quality fact?

 

According to him, Lexus greatfully picked up the tab on parts twice after the warranty runs out -
shows customer satisfaction there.

[try owning a W220] if anyone wants to b$tch about quality

On the other hand, there are lots of S class with high failure rate on the air suspension that there are cheaper alternative (Arnott).

On the LS430, either failure rate wasn't high and/or no aftermarket company (so far) to produce rebuilt so they are still expensive.

Again, people picking up these used luxury cars for cheap forget that the repair rate is still as they were when they're brand new

 

I will admit , although I love my LS460 and loved my GS350 theye were not problem free. My GS was a rattle box and the LS has a mystery vibration that 3 dealership foreman and 1 field technical specialist can not figure out. I think Lexus is still the safest bet but they are far from the perfect cars everyone makes them out to be

 

Can you ask this guy where he is buying cars? I'd be interested in buying a 2 year old LS UL with low miles and a warranty for less than half price.

If he really did buy an 06 UL for 35k in 08, I'd venture to guess that the bent frame or rebuilt title might have something to do with his troubles. That car had to have something seriously wrong with it to have sold that cheap at that time.