Push Button Start Law Suits
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Push Button Start Law Suits
It's been in the news lately that Toyota has been sued by consumers because drivers of Lexus vehicles forgot to turn off their ignition before leaving their garage which resulted in CO poisoning. The news report said because Lexus vehicles are exceptionally quiet, the driver sometimes forget the motoring is still running; but Toyota claims that there are ample warning lights and alarms to warn the driver that the engine is still running.
I was wondering if anyone thinks these law suits have teeth...
I was wondering if anyone thinks these law suits have teeth...
In my opinion I think it's a bunch of garbage. Lexus motors are quiet, sure, but you should still be able to hear it pretty clearly in a closed garage. Plus the car beeps at you when you walk away from it key in hand with the engine running.
Much dumber (IMO) cases have won in litigation so who knows how this one will end up.
Much dumber (IMO) cases have won in litigation so who knows how this one will end up.
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This is a bunch of bs because are you kidding me, our cars are quiet but not that quiet to the point where you can hear them when you're right beside them. 
I swear people try to sue you for anything these days.
I swear people try to sue you for anything these days.
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My first thoughts was hybrids too. Seems Toyota is having all kinds of problems advancing technology, ie hybrids make no noise, Lexus too quiet... 
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In a word.....No.
Three things. First, today's cars emit far less CO than those of decades ago, so you have to inhale a LOT more of the exhaust-fumes to poison yourself than you did in the past. Second, even if you can't hear the engine running inside the car, you should, even in a quiet Lexus, hear it running OUTSIDE the car, especially if you are in a closed-garage which tends to amplify noise. Third, tachometers are standard-equipment in most new vehicles nowadays for good reasons.... and yes, quiet-engines are one of those reasons.
Three things. First, today's cars emit far less CO than those of decades ago, so you have to inhale a LOT more of the exhaust-fumes to poison yourself than you did in the past. Second, even if you can't hear the engine running inside the car, you should, even in a quiet Lexus, hear it running OUTSIDE the car, especially if you are in a closed-garage which tends to amplify noise. Third, tachometers are standard-equipment in most new vehicles nowadays for good reasons.... and yes, quiet-engines are one of those reasons.
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It's been in the news lately that Toyota has been sued by consumers because drivers of Lexus vehicles forgot to turn off their ignition before leaving their garage which resulted in CO poisoning. The news report said because Lexus vehicles are exceptionally quiet, the driver sometimes forget the motoring is still running; but Toyota claims that there are ample warning lights and alarms to warn the driver that the engine is still running.
I was wondering if anyone thinks these law suits have teeth...
I was wondering if anyone thinks these law suits have teeth...
http://www.safetyresearch.net/2011/0...th-smart-keys/
Although I consider it to be an act of stupidity the courts, according to the author, may side with the owner of the vehicle.