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It's kinda a disappointing to me, but at the same time makes me want to pick up a 1st gen NSX

 

That is probably the only unfortunate thing about the New NSX IMHO, but if that's what will help make the production car exist in the first place under the current economic climate, so be it.At least this 2nd-generation SH-AWD is rear-biased, requires no additional weight of a center diff, and uses electric motors in the front to actually enhance handling. Nothing wrong with taking on a different philosophy as long as the end result is a great sports car. The NSX stands for New Sports Experimental, not SOX (Same-Old Experimental), after all. BTW the Godzilla is AWD too and no one belittles it.Well the Godzilla has a V-6 engine too and no one belittles it. The Godzilla is boosted with turbos while the New NSX is "boosted" with electric motors. Fair enough to me.As long as the weight is kept in check (obviously through the use of a lot of expensive, exotic materials) and the weight distribution is done right (actually easier in a hybrid because batteries can be placed strategically), being a hybrid can actually be a good thing here because of the innovative 2nd-generation SH-AWD, which enhances handling by making electric motors generate negative torque on the inside wheel.Nothing wrong with taking time to make sure things are done right. No different than the long development time of the LFA and the GT-R.I think we can be a little more open-minded here.

 

so are audi r8, lamborghinis...

the original nsx was v6 too.

lf-lc concept is hybrid too.

similarly, lf-lc is reportedly expected to be "headed to production by 2014 or 2015"

good things take time! have no idea if this nsx will be any good...

 

i am happy as long as the technology is developed and car is built.
i am looking forward for such technology in all future Acuras, the Hybrid AWD system is something that i am very interested.

 

Yup and some Porsches too. Good sports cars can be AWD.But the N/A V6 was considered underpowered at the time the car was retired and will be even more so in this day of age. Some form of boost is needed to make up for the deficiency of a V-6 unless you go the Porsche GT3 route.But the LF-LC is no sports car.The New NSX will require a brand new dedicated chassis that is not and won't be available anywhere else in Honda's lineup. The LF-LC on the other hand is going to share platform (and likely the drivetrain) with the next-generation LS so I expect the development time of the LF-LC to be shorter than that of the New NSX.Indeed. Let's wait and see before passing judgement.

 

They have plans for the NSX to be used in LeMans style GT racing. So with that in mind I think there will be some definite sporting to this car. Honda is going to find it's way again in terms of sportiness. They've seen the success so far of the BRZ GT86 FRS, so has Nissan. I can't wait to see this car in it's glory.

 

Now again I am CLEARLY a supporter of sporty hybrids, I have one and to that effect I surely welcome the NSX. But they should call it something else, there is nothing NSX about this vehicle. Do you visit NSXPrime? Their commentary is hilarious including having the 2nd gen NSX forum called "Unicorn Discussion". It seems the supporters are people completely out of the loop acting like car enthusiasts.

It will be e-SHAWD btw.. The GTR-V-6 is wonderful, but Nissan didn't go around racing a V-10 and saying "it will be faster than the GTR" like Honda/Acura did years ago. It is beyond me how ANYONE could get excited from a company that just blabbers their mouth over and over. I will get somewhat excited when I can go drive to Ohio and see it at the factory.

The LF-LC has no heritage like the NSX, its a brand new model so it can be a hybrid, AWD, RWD, goat powered, V-12, electric, its a new model. Don't call this a NSX when its from a company that has lost all roots with its past. Do you really think Mr. Honda would debut anything like this?

The irony is look at the success of the simplicity of the FRS. If Honda would just replicate the NSX again, low weight, good looks, great interior, reliability, then it would be a perfect 2nd gen for the time.

 

Who says a car needs to maintain the same drivetrain layout across generations in order to carry the same nameplate? It totally depends on what the car's concept is about. The concept of the Corolla for example is about "the people's car" so throughout its "heritage" it had been seen with RWD, AWD and FWD, sometimes all 3 in the very same generation to suit "the people"'s needs. The "MR2" to the contrary is all about mid-engined fun so it has to stay that way if a new generation MR2 is to carry that name. The NSX on the other hand, whose concept is indicated by its New Sportscar Experimental name, is really about experimenting new technologies for a sports car. The first and only generation (which hardly defines a trend BTW) of the NSX experimented with the world's first all-aluminium monocoque body in a production car and enjoyed success (as a sports car) with that particular lightweight, simple approach. The second generation of the "NSX", following its name, naturally should find a new approach to a sports car to experiment with. As long as it's a sports car that breaks new grounds it deserves to be called the "NSX" IMO.

 

You are stretching it comparing the nameplate Corolla, MR2 with NSX. I hang out with NSX owners and most would completely disagree with you.

Best of luck to it and again I am happy to see a sports car hybrid. And the NSX vs Lexus LF-LC will sure be fun to watch.

 

The NSX is to Honda just like what the LFA is to Toyota/Lexus. They exist only to showcase what these companies can technically achieve at the time, bean counters be damned. They're not like the GT-R that has a long heritage of being a Skyline Plus that can at least break even financially on a regular basis. Be it lightweight RWD or super-sophisticated hybrid AWD, the New NSX will again showcase the best that Honda has to offer, which happens to be the 2nd-generation SH-AWD (or e-SH-AWD) and the hybrid system that comes with it this time around.

BTW it wasn't me that brought up the LF-LC in this thread. I would never compare the LF-LC to the NSX because the LF-LC is meant to be a luxury GT a la the 6-series while the NSX is meant to be a true sports car. They may both be hybrid coupes but there will be no doubt which one will be the more comfortable car to live with and which one will be the more track/B-road-worthy.

 

Maybe the first NSx but this second one will use parts shared with the next RL including the engine. Nothing like the LFA in execution.

We don't know what the NSx or LF-lc will be capable off so if I were you I'd slow down on jumping to conclusions. As I reported months ago the LF-lc was announced today to have 500hp... The NSx over 400...

Honda has a ton to prove here and lets hope they deliver.

 

You can't seriously be comparing turbos to electric motors in terms of "boosting." I know you aren't really comparing but come on. Completely different and for performance I would take turbos any day over electric. Who knows, maybe when it comes out it will prove me wrong, I guess we will have to wait, and wait, and wait, and see.

 

Trust me, turbos are cool and all but electric can and will blow away anything out there.....just give it some time.


Watch this homebrew electric powered car:

http://youtu.be/369h-SEBXd8

 

That's true. While the chassis will almost certainly be dedicated to the NSX the hybrid powertrain will most likely be shared with the next RL even though the transmission cannot be shared due to the RL being on a FWD platform. Still, with so many crucial parts dedicated to this niche model it is unlikely that Honda can expect to break even on the New NSX IMHO.Come on, as an enthusiast you should be able to tell the LF-LC's intention miles away when Lexus said it will be based on the LS platform and cover it with a sliding panoramic glass roof. I'm sure it will still be able to handle very well for a luxury coupe but it will definitely not have the hard-edged dynamics of a true sports car, which the NSX and the LFA are set out from the ground up to be.They've already proven themselves with the original NSX, the S2000 and even the FWD Type-Rs so I have full confidence in their capability to deliver when they want to.

 

Less then 8 cylinders in the Godzilla is the biggest reason why I don't own a Godzilla right now. I am done with rice rocket that have less then 8 cylinders. Speed is only one factor in the driving excitment, "feels" is much more important.