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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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All the best to them.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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All the best to them.
Honda needs all the luck they can have, the car will be develop and manufacture in the U.S.

Don't get me wrong, I am proud to be a U.S. citizen and the U.S. is my favorite country to live in. But what makes a Japanese car great is because they are develop and manufacture in Japan.

If I want an American sports car, I rather have a ZR1

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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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Was shown in Geneva as the Honda NSX to be sold as a Honda in Europe

http://cars.uk.msn.com/motorshows/ge...sx-concept-car

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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Wake me up when they at least have a sketch of the interior

In the meanwhile, I'll be staring at the LF-LC and the Infiniti Emerge.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Have they dropped any clues on pricing yet?

I'm praying it's around the $100-120k mark (i know, wishful thinking)
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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30 years ago, bedrooms all over the world were adorned with pictures of supercars like the Ferrari 288 GTO, Ferrari Testarossa, Porsche 959 and Lamborghini Countach.

At that time, very few of us worried about gas mileage, fuel economy or oil prices. All we wanted was a fast, sexy sportscar, even if it only managed a few miles per gallon.

In today’s automotive world where gas mileage is king, can we ever return to those heady days of supercar adoration on bedroom walls?

Enter the Acura NSX and Infiniti Emerg-E, 2 cars that promise supercar performance while also returning impressive gas mileage. 1 is a hybrid supercar, while the other is a range-extended electric supercar.

Neither car has even been given a production schedule yet, but both have created a huge stir since launch.

Moreover, both Acura and Infiniti have admitted their respective cars will become the halo car for each company.

But which car will win in the bedroom wall stakes? And why?



Acrua NSX

Even before it was unveiled at the 2012 Detroit Auto Show, the 2015 Acura NSX was closely watched by supercar fans.

Named after its legendary namesake, the 2015 promises a traditional supercar layout, with its V-6 direct-injected VTEC engine placed behind the cabin in a mid-mounted position.

Acura has said the gasoline engine will be married to a powerful electric motor, driving the rear wheels through a dual-clutch transmission.

Meanwhile, the front wheels will be driven by 2 independent electric motors.

Made out of Aluminum, the NSX should also remain lighter than supercars of days gone by.

Acura hasn’t detailed any performance or power specifications yet, but expect the NSX to deliver an impressive 0-60 time thanks to its triple motor setup.

What Acura has boasted about however, is its new handling package, which includes a bilateral torque adjustable control system.

Using the front wheel motors, Acura says the 2015 NSX will be able to provide negative or positive torque to each wheel, minimizing over- and under-steer, even at high speed.

As for looks? The NSX combines classic supercar looks with modern-day aerodynamics that haven’t been dumbed down to appear eco-minded. In short, it dares you to go faster.



Infiniti Emerg-E

Like the Acura NSX, there’s no hint that the Emerg-E is an eco-minded supercar.

But if the Acura NSX wears the chiseled good-looks of a classic American superhero, the Infiniti Emerg-E has the more youthful charm of a comic-book martial-arts hero, with a gentler, curved nose, high headlight ridges and a narrow waistline.

Unlike the NSX, the Emerg-E has a pronounced waistline, with air vents providing ventilation to its mid-mounted gasoline range-extending engine.

That analogy continues to the drivetrain. Unlike the Acura NSX, which uses its V-6 gasoline engine to provide most of the drive power, the Infiniti Emerg-E uses twin 300 kilowatt electric motors to provide electric all-wheel drive.

Infiniti says the Emerg-E should hit 60 mph in under 4 seconds, going on to a top speed of 130 mph.

Only when its battery pack is depleted -- or extra power is required -- does the gasoline range-extending engine kicks in.

But instead of V-6 grunt, the Infiniti Emerg-E uses a highly-efficient 3-cylinder engine to generate additional power.



Our Verdict?

In all honesty, we know so little about either car to really tell which will be more popular with sports car enthusiasts -- and bedroom walls -- across the world.

But we can’t help but think both cars cater to different markets.

The Acura NSX will win fans thanks to its V-6 engine and pedigree, while the Emerg-E will win fans for its low running cost and almost silent acceleration.

At the moment, we honestly can’t decide.

But what about you? Which car would you choose to put on your bedroom wall, or cash your 401k to buy?

Let us know in the Comments below.


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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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I like the rear end of the NSX concept more than the rear on the Emerg-E, but the front of the Infiniti better than the Acura lol. Guess I'd better stick with the LF-LC instead lol
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Was shown in Geneva as the Honda NSX to be sold as a Honda in Europe

http://cars.uk.msn.com/motorshows/ge...sx-concept-car


It says the V6 will develop 306hp. I hope its a typo and they actually meant 406hp because if not, then that's just sad. If the batteries were to be depleted, the car will not be much faster than your Honda Accord V6.
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
It says the V6 will develop 306hp. I hope its a typo and they actually meant 406hp because if not, then that's just sad. If the batteries were to be depleted, the car will not be much faster than your Honda Accord V6.
should be 310 with the new generation of Honda engines:

The specifications for the new Honda engines are:

-- A 3.5-liter V6 with 310 hp and 265 lb-ft of torque. This is 30 more horsepower and 11 more lb-ft than the outgoing 3.5-liter engine in the Acura TL.

-- A 2.4-liter inline-four with 181 hp and 177 lb-ft of torque. This will be the base engine in the redesigned Accord coming next fall and could find its way into the midcycle change for the CR-V in 2013.

-- A 1.8-liter inline-four with 148 hp and 133 lb-ft of torque, which could be installed in the 2013 midcycle change for the Civic.

-- A 1.5-liter inline-four with 127 hp and 111 lb-ft of torque for the Fit, perhaps in time for the midcycle change in 2012.

-- A 1.6-liter turbodiesel engine that has comparable power to a current 2.2-liter diesel, with 220 lb-ft of torque but much better fuel economy.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...n-engines.html
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Yes, but that engine was meant for the TL. Question is, will Honda put a higher output engine in the NSX. Even at 310hp, it doesn't help its case.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Lets hope those engineers with the veto power turn things around for honda.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice350
All you guys harping on horsepower...I just never understand it.
I totally agree. With some people, no matter how much power underhood, it seems like it's never enough.


The horsepower war is over.
I sure hope so.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
Yes, but that engine was meant for the TL. Question is, will Honda put a higher output engine in the NSX. Even at 310hp, it doesn't help its case.
People at Honda already basically confirmed the engine going in the RL or the way it is tuned for the RL was not potent enough for the new NSX and they would be using something with more power. I agree the IC engine needs more then 310hp but if the batteries/electric motors are going to be putting out around 90 - 100hp or more the engine alone does not need to be putting out 400hp for it to still have amazing performance. Asking a NA V6 alone to put out 400hp is asking a lot and will likely affect long term durability/smoothness/fuel economy.

The more I look at the actual E emerge concept the less I like it from most angles. The front angled quarter view in the last pic looks really good but the head on view and rear don't look very good, it is too bulbous and rounded, from the side it looks more like a smaller less exotic car like a Artega GT or Lotus Evora which I believe what it is based on. Right now it is said to only have a 3 cylinder for a IC engine most likely making less then 200hp with very large batteries to provide most of the power so this car if it gets built is going to be very different from the NSX, it will be mostly electric and will be limited to shorter bursts of full to mostly full power.

Next few years should be interesting though for Japanese automakers

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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
Asking a NA V6 alone to put out 400hp is asking a lot and will likely affect long term durability/smoothness/fuel economy.
Asking a NA DI V6 to put out 400 hp is not entirely crazy these days, it just need to be a bit high strung or high revving.

The 3.7L NA V6 from Nissan and 3.8L NA V6 from Hyundai are both making 350 hp today, and they are inexpensive motors.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Asking a NA DI V6 to put out 400 hp is not entirely crazy these days, it just need to be a bit high strung or high revving.

The 3.7L NA V6 from Nissan and 3.8L NA V6 from Hyundai are both making 350 hp today, and they are inexpensive motors.
Horsepower easy. It's the torque they all can't seem to match. Lexus 6 year old 3.5L puts out 277lbft more than any other 3.5-3.7 on the market. Save for the new Hyundai 3.8 which has 290. So yeah hp is attainable, but with the way things are now companies won't seem to crank it unless they can eek out an extra mpg or so
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