Advice needed. Possible lemon.
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I find it hard to believe they are letting the car sit there for that long unless its something major. The car is taking up space on their lot and they are liable for it since its there. I am shocked it is there that long, period.
With the G37 out now, I am sure they would swap it out or make some sort of deal where your payment was the same or in the same neighborhood. Otherside, you could lemon it but thats a long drawn our process.
What did the G35 forums say? Anyone else share this issue?
Sounds like its some sort of fail safe/limp home sensor if you can drive it up to 5mph. THe computer is not letting the engine go past that.
Good luck.
With the G37 out now, I am sure they would swap it out or make some sort of deal where your payment was the same or in the same neighborhood. Otherside, you could lemon it but thats a long drawn our process.
What did the G35 forums say? Anyone else share this issue?
Sounds like its some sort of fail safe/limp home sensor if you can drive it up to 5mph. THe computer is not letting the engine go past that.
Good luck.
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Usually, engine/transmission Limp-Home modes are confined to second-gear only, which means more than 5 MPH. The tranny starts, stops, and runs in second gear.
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only a lawyer can light a fire under nissan HQ's ***.
you may want to try a non-litigious method first though. Call nissanHQ and just ask them to take it back or help you move into a new car with no/minimal extra cost.
there's only one outcome at this point. you don't tell a customer to keep a dead car.
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I find it hard to believe they are letting the car sit there for that long unless its something major. The car is taking up space on their lot and they are liable for it since its there. I am shocked it is there that long, period.
With the G37 out now, I am sure they would swap it out or make some sort of deal where your payment was the same or in the same neighborhood. Otherside, you could lemon it but thats a long drawn our process.
What did the G35 forums say? Anyone else share this issue?
Sounds like its some sort of fail safe/limp home sensor if you can drive it up to 5mph. THe computer is not letting the engine go past that.
Good luck.
With the G37 out now, I am sure they would swap it out or make some sort of deal where your payment was the same or in the same neighborhood. Otherside, you could lemon it but thats a long drawn our process.
What did the G35 forums say? Anyone else share this issue?
Sounds like its some sort of fail safe/limp home sensor if you can drive it up to 5mph. THe computer is not letting the engine go past that.
Good luck.
But yes, those are my thoughts too, that no one would keep the car for that long unless it was something major. I don't think its anything major, I just feel they aren't trying hard enough. I am sure they are sick of the car.
Last time I spoke to em, they said they are going to tare down the engine harness and look at each wire. Well that doesn't sit well with me. anytime anything like that is taken apart, usually its not put together as well as it is by the manufacturer, so I know car will have more issues because of it in the future.
So sick of it man.
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you know what to do....
only a lawyer can light a fire under nissan HQ's ***.
you may want to try a non-litigious method first though. Call nissanHQ and just ask them to take it back or help you move into a new car with no/minimal extra cost.
there's only one outcome at this point. you don't tell a customer to keep a dead car.
only a lawyer can light a fire under nissan HQ's ***.
you may want to try a non-litigious method first though. Call nissanHQ and just ask them to take it back or help you move into a new car with no/minimal extra cost.
there's only one outcome at this point. you don't tell a customer to keep a dead car.
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My fear is they do tear is down and they do a 1/2 *** job putting it back together. A good service team can easily put things back if they want to, but will they want to. Then your stuck with more issues.
Sorry to hear this, have you called Infiniti corporate? The company usually is in the top 10 or 5 or so with customer service.
Sorry to hear this, have you called Infiniti corporate? The company usually is in the top 10 or 5 or so with customer service.
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My fear is they do tear is down and they do a 1/2 *** job putting it back together. A good service team can easily put things back if they want to, but will they want to. Then your stuck with more issues.
Sorry to hear this, have you called Infiniti corporate? The company usually is in the top 10 or 5 or so with customer service.
Sorry to hear this, have you called Infiniti corporate? The company usually is in the top 10 or 5 or so with customer service.
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Sounds like they are never gonna fix it, a friend of mine had a similar problem, I don't remember the car but it was a no start with no codes or anything wrong, the car sat around for so long that when they traded it, it came out looking better then they hoped.
I would say wait until the summer rolls around and trade it in, take advantage of the large number of new cars sitting on dealer lots, good luck a no start can be frustrating
I would say wait until the summer rolls around and trade it in, take advantage of the large number of new cars sitting on dealer lots, good luck a no start can be frustrating
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I called their office just few minutes ago. They said to have an answer by the end of the day tomorrow.
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Sounds like they are never gonna fix it, a friend of mine had a similar problem, I don't remember the car but it was a no start with no codes or anything wrong, the car sat around for so long that when they traded it, it came out looking better then they hoped.
I would say wait until the summer rolls around and trade it in, take advantage of the large number of new cars sitting on dealer lots, good luck a no start can be frustrating
I would say wait until the summer rolls around and trade it in, take advantage of the large number of new cars sitting on dealer lots, good luck a no start can be frustrating
I hope they crush it instead of selling to another person. because I will probably have issues. I don't know that, thats the feelings I have.
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i hope your repair was within the 12-month period mandated by ohio lemon law.
the Ohio lemon law is 10x better than the CA lemon law. You actually get your full purchase price refunded.
You can then take that money and buy a rattle-trap lexus IS!
In CA, they take off a percentage based on mileage. I lost over $1000 on mileage when i lemon'd my old car.
by the ohio definition, you already have a lemon.
If infiniti doesn't offer to give you a new car or refund your purchase price THIS WEEK, don't mess around for a minute longer. Go straight to a lawyer (one without consulting fees. Many lawyers do this free because the car mfgr pays their fees on top of the refund you get).
Whatever you do, do not go through arbitration.
disregard the quote above where it says it's "much faster". it's not worth it.
Like i said before, the car mfgr usually acts fast to take the car back when they receive the attorney's letter of intent to sue.
Has the Manufacturer Had a Reasonable Opportunity to Repair the Vehicle?
If you can answer "yes'' to any of the following four questions. the manufacturer is presumed to have had a reasonable opportunity to repair your vehicle under Ohio law.
1. Have three or more attempts been made to repair one problem and then the problem occurs again?
2. Has the vehicle been in the shop for 30 days or more during its first year or 18.000 miles?
3. Have eight or more attempts been made to fix different problems that impair the use, value or safety of the vehicle?
4. Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
If you answered "yes" to at least one of these four questions, you have the legal right to ask the manufacturer to replace the lemon or refund the entire purchase price.
Send a certified letter to the automaker's "Zone Office". You can find the address in your owner's manual, or ask your auto dealer. In the letter, list the problems you've had with the car, and what attempts have been made to correct them. Finally, your letter should indicate whether you want the car replaced or the refund for your full purchase price. Be sure to keep a photocopy of your letter for your records. Claims must be brought within five years of the date of the original delivery of the motor vehicle.
Will the Manufacturer Refund the Full Purchase Price of the Vehicle?
Once it is clear that your vehicle has not been fixed, the automaker must, at your option, give you a new vehicle or refund the "full purchase price". That price includes all of the following:
* The price for the car plus the costs for transportation, dealer preparation, delivery, dealer installed accessories, and other services.
* The costs for financing and credit insurance, as well as any warranty and service charges.
* Taxes and any other government charges, including state sales tax, license fees and registration fees.
Sometimes an automaker will agree with your claim and work to replace your lemon as quickly as possible. In most cases, the manufacturer will request an additional opportunity to repair the vehicle. They may try to negotiate a mutually satisfactory resolution with you. The manufacturer or dealer should advise you about an arbitration program available to informally resolve disputes. If you apply for arbitration, you should expect to wait several weeks for your hearing to be scheduled. Informal arbitration is, however, much faster and less formal than a court proceeding.
If you can answer "yes'' to any of the following four questions. the manufacturer is presumed to have had a reasonable opportunity to repair your vehicle under Ohio law.
1. Have three or more attempts been made to repair one problem and then the problem occurs again?
2. Has the vehicle been in the shop for 30 days or more during its first year or 18.000 miles?
3. Have eight or more attempts been made to fix different problems that impair the use, value or safety of the vehicle?
4. Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
If you answered "yes" to at least one of these four questions, you have the legal right to ask the manufacturer to replace the lemon or refund the entire purchase price.
Send a certified letter to the automaker's "Zone Office". You can find the address in your owner's manual, or ask your auto dealer. In the letter, list the problems you've had with the car, and what attempts have been made to correct them. Finally, your letter should indicate whether you want the car replaced or the refund for your full purchase price. Be sure to keep a photocopy of your letter for your records. Claims must be brought within five years of the date of the original delivery of the motor vehicle.
Will the Manufacturer Refund the Full Purchase Price of the Vehicle?
Once it is clear that your vehicle has not been fixed, the automaker must, at your option, give you a new vehicle or refund the "full purchase price". That price includes all of the following:
* The price for the car plus the costs for transportation, dealer preparation, delivery, dealer installed accessories, and other services.
* The costs for financing and credit insurance, as well as any warranty and service charges.
* Taxes and any other government charges, including state sales tax, license fees and registration fees.
Sometimes an automaker will agree with your claim and work to replace your lemon as quickly as possible. In most cases, the manufacturer will request an additional opportunity to repair the vehicle. They may try to negotiate a mutually satisfactory resolution with you. The manufacturer or dealer should advise you about an arbitration program available to informally resolve disputes. If you apply for arbitration, you should expect to wait several weeks for your hearing to be scheduled. Informal arbitration is, however, much faster and less formal than a court proceeding.
the Ohio lemon law is 10x better than the CA lemon law. You actually get your full purchase price refunded.
You can then take that money and buy a rattle-trap lexus IS!In CA, they take off a percentage based on mileage. I lost over $1000 on mileage when i lemon'd my old car.
by the ohio definition, you already have a lemon.
If infiniti doesn't offer to give you a new car or refund your purchase price THIS WEEK, don't mess around for a minute longer. Go straight to a lawyer (one without consulting fees. Many lawyers do this free because the car mfgr pays their fees on top of the refund you get).
Whatever you do, do not go through arbitration.
disregard the quote above where it says it's "much faster". it's not worth it.
Like i said before, the car mfgr usually acts fast to take the car back when they receive the attorney's letter of intent to sue.
Last edited by dunnojack; Feb 24, 2009 at 01:49 PM.
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