hyundai genesis (merged threads)
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Lexus does a great job differentiating the ES and RX from the Camry. While an ES is no longer for me, it is a Lexus inside and out. You are entitled to your opinion, others share it as well.
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If the ES (Camry) and RX (Camry/Highlander) aren't "real" Lexus', that doesn't bode well for the LX and GX (Toyota based SUV's).
That would leave the LS, GS, IS & SC as the only "real" Lexus'. Hardly enough volume to support an entire division. Last year ES & RX represented 56% of total sales. Add in LX and GX and you have nearly 65% of Lexus sales.
That would leave the LS, GS, IS & SC as the only "real" Lexus'. Hardly enough volume to support an entire division. Last year ES & RX represented 56% of total sales. Add in LX and GX and you have nearly 65% of Lexus sales.
Last edited by LexBob2; Feb 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM.
If the ES (Camry) and RX (Camry/Highlander) aren't "real" Lexus', that doesn't bode well for the LX and GX (Toyota based SUV's).
That would leave the LS, GS, IS & SC as the only "real" Lexus'. Hardly enough volume to support an entire division. Last year ES & RX represented 56% of total sales. Add in LX and GX and you have nearly 65% of Lexus sales.
That would leave the LS, GS, IS & SC as the only "real" Lexus'. Hardly enough volume to support an entire division. Last year ES & RX represented 56% of total sales. Add in LX and GX and you have nearly 65% of Lexus sales.
I've seen 2 already roaming the streets.
The front grill is pretty generic, chrome borders with black mesh, unlike those ugly vertical grill lines.
Front looks like a bigger RL and the rear does look like the I35 taillights.
Overall, it look pretty good
The front grill is pretty generic, chrome borders with black mesh, unlike those ugly vertical grill lines.
Front looks like a bigger RL and the rear does look like the I35 taillights.
Overall, it look pretty good
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Although as spwolf points out FWD has tremendous advantages in packaging.
Everyone thinks that the ES loaners I get are roomier and bigger than my GS
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I never understood this but why do some FWD cars still have a tunnel that goes through the middle of the car? My parent's 95 ES300 has the tunnel, my 92 Celica had the tunnel.
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Got to put the exhaust somewhere, the tunnel should at least be smaller than you would have with RWD.
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exaust routing... and actually, all of the newest FWD toyota's dont have it anymore and they make great point of that.
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How Many Of You Would Have Gone For This If It Had Been Out?
I sure as hell know I would have.
Maxed out it comes in at $36k.
368hp and pretty much every bell and whisle a kid at heart could want.
I'm pretty sure I know what my next car is going to be!!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/08/d...kes-things-up/
Maxed out it comes in at $36k.
368hp and pretty much every bell and whisle a kid at heart could want.
I'm pretty sure I know what my next car is going to be!!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/08/d...kes-things-up/
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That car is HOT!!!!
As long as it is quiet riding inside and decent interior it is on my very likely to be next car short list.
You can see profiles of it and more at
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/
Note it has it's own website, so I think they are launching their own luxury division with this as a start.
As long as it is quiet riding inside and decent interior it is on my very likely to be next car short list.
You can see profiles of it and more at
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/
Note it has it's own website, so I think they are launching their own luxury division with this as a start.
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i dont think its going to be its own luxury division just because of its own site. the IS-F has its own site. its just a minisite.
as for the car, i wouldnt buy it if it cost 30K. call me brand concious, but no matter how good it looks, its still a hyundai and a hyundai in my book is no car worth buying
as for the car, i wouldnt buy it if it cost 30K. call me brand concious, but no matter how good it looks, its still a hyundai and a hyundai in my book is no car worth buying