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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by picus
Every indication is that this car will be at or below the BMW numbers. I agree that standing 0-60 is a silly number to dwell on; for daily driving I am more interested in passing speeds (30-50, 50-70, 50-100 etc..); cars with a lot of torque down low can suffer in standing start times, but excel in rolling times (look at the recent Z06/997/430 comparo).
I think you mean the otherway around - I don't see how torque can affect standing start times . It's normally lack of torque. I don't think the BMW will have much problems from a rolling start, I doubt it's torque falls off at high revs not to mention when overtaking the autobox will most likely perform a kickdown anyway.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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um, except that those cars have 200hp more, lol. torque is your king to get good time, any time...
I wasn't comparing the 335i to the Z06, just using it as an example.

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I think you mean the otherway around - I don't see how torque can affect standing start times . It's normally lack of torque. I don't think the BMW will have much problems from a rolling start, I doubt it's torque falls off at high revs not to mention when overtaking the autobox will most likely perform a kickdown anyway.
It's harder to get a good launch with a non-AWD car with a lot of low end torque, that's all I meant. Cheers.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by picus
It's harder to get a good launch with a non-AWD car with a lot of low end torque, that's all I meant. Cheers.
Oh okay...sorry for the misunderstanding .
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Outstanding pics, video, and review at this link.

Winding Road Magazine
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26131
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Wow, I did not know that the turbos are built by Mitsubishi!

There's a little rice in that goulash!
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Wow, I did not know that the turbos are built by Mitsubishi!

There's a little rice in that goulash!
Is this a joke or are you serious?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Serious, I never read too much into the engine (did not interest me)
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Is this a joke or are you serious?
Read the Winding Road review, it mentions it.

I'm not at all surprised though, as BMW has never really had much experience with turbos. It makes sense they would utilize the experience and turbo expertise of someone like Mitsubishi for their new engine.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Is this a joke or are you serious?

It's true. MMC makes good turbos. no worries.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Read the Winding Road review, it mentions it.

I'm not at all surprised though, as BMW has never really had much experience with turbos. It makes sense they would utilize the experience and turbo expertise of someone like Mitsubishi for their new engine.
well, did we expect for BMW to manufacure turbo's? Obviously they have supplier that does so. Most Toyota turbo's are Garrett turbos.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Read the Winding Road review, it mentions it.
I think 1Sick was referring to the rice comments. He has plenty of knowledge to know that Mitsubishi makes turbos
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I would rather them be made by Mitsu (Evo) than Saab (9-3)
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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The first real world test numbers are in - personally I think they seem very optimistic; I'm looking for a scan (it's from Autozeitung magazine):

E92 335i automatic:

0-100km/h 5,3 sec
0-160km/h 11,9 sec
0-200km/h 18,7 sec
Test consumption 12,3l/100km

The 0-160km (0-100mph) is the same speed as C&D's test of the Cayman S, and a full second faster than the Audi S4 and IS350, so it seems too good to be true.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by picus
The first real world test numbers are in - personally I think they seem very optimistic; I'm looking for a scan (it's from Autozeitung magazine):

E92 335i automatic:

0-100km/h 5,3 sec
0-160km/h 11,9 sec
0-200km/h 18,7 sec
Test consumption 12,3l/100km

The 0-160km (0-100mph) is the same speed as C&D's test of the Cayman S, and a full second faster than the Audi S4 and IS350, so it seems too good to be true.
thats interesting since usually Europeans get a lot slower test results than US Magazines...
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Those are pretty crazy numbers, especially for an automatic. I'll wait for the C&D's results (where the IS350 did 0-60mph in 5.1 secs) before admitting the defeat of the IS350 though.
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