Official BMW E92 3-series thread (UPDATE - 335i Dyno pg.48)
Originally Posted by Ramon
The problem with left and right is that it can get confusing when the wheel is turned 180 degrees, where as the paddle and thumb buttons might take some getting use to, there won't be that confusion.
Originally Posted by CK6Speed
I agree. The difference between F1, and those performance driving elaluations and regular non professional drivers is the pros know never to shift in in the middle of a hard turn. They already downshift to the exit gear before they enter the turn. The pros know that shifting in a hard turn can disrupt the cars balance and that is never a good thing. Sure they shift on bends and mild curves, but never on a turn that would require that much steering input. That is why having the paddle shifters on the steering wheel makes more sense too me. When you have your hands on the steering wheel the paddles will always right at your finger tips even around a mild bend or curve. If it were on the steering column and you tried to shift while going around a mild bend the paddle shifter would be in the wrong place and you would have to reposition your hand to shift. I really don't understand why the Ferrari street cars have it on the column as that seens to go against high performance driving techniques.
i am no pro driver by all means, but i have my share of stick shift driving days. when i wanna drive aggressively, i always down shift and hold it there before i enter the corner and stay my hands on the steering wheel through out
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First off, I'd way rather have the current M3 model.. 2ndly, A new model bmw with
a turbo-charged engine? Sounds like whoever buys these cars might as well get a job at
bmw repair stations, because they're are going to be there quite often...The only upside
i see to these cars, is they are going to come out with these kits you can buy that will raise
boost and also full exhaust systems that will add tons of power.. just like the audi s4's..
a turbo-charged engine? Sounds like whoever buys these cars might as well get a job at
bmw repair stations, because they're are going to be there quite often...The only upside
i see to these cars, is they are going to come out with these kits you can buy that will raise
boost and also full exhaust systems that will add tons of power.. just like the audi s4's..
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"Official " Pricing of 3 series coupe
The 335i coupe with the 300-horse twin-turbo six will start at $41,295 (not $40,600), the 328i Coupe will begin at $35,995 (not $35,300) and the inaugural 328xi will go for $37,795 (not $37,100). Does it matter the 3-Series Coupe will be more expensive than we thought? No. As BMW correctly points out, the base 328i offers more features and performance than the outgoing, top-of-the-line 330Ci Coupe, all for $2,500 less.
^^so wtf they are raising the price now? with destination its bascially 42k just like everyone expected, hello to 50k optioned 3 series
now the 328 isnt that good of a value anymore same MSRP as a IS350 with less features (no leather, no automatic, less power)
now the 328 isnt that good of a value anymore same MSRP as a IS350 with less features (no leather, no automatic, less power)
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
^^so wtf they are raising the price now? with destination its bascially 42k just like everyone expected, hello to 50k optioned 3 series
now the 328 isnt that good of a value anymore same MSRP as a IS350 with less features (no leather, no automatic, less power)
now the 328 isnt that good of a value anymore same MSRP as a IS350 with less features (no leather, no automatic, less power)
You do however get what you pay for
Originally Posted by rominl
i am no pro driver by all means, but i have my share of stick shift driving days. when i wanna drive aggressively, i always down shift and hold it there before i enter the corner and stay my hands on the steering wheel through out
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Originally Posted by GlobeCLK
5.7 sec for automatic is pretty good. Only trails IS350 by half a second.
There will probably be chip mods for the 335 though, like how tuners have been tuning VW/Audi's turbo engines. It's one way to get some effective gains without playing too much with German electronics.
There will probably be chip mods for the 335 though, like how tuners have been tuning VW/Audi's turbo engines. It's one way to get some effective gains without playing too much with German electronics.
Consider instead the fact that the 335i does the standing kilometer in 24.5 seconds (BMW's own claim) - that's just three tenths of a second off the mark set by the E46 M3 and exactly identical to that of the 650i. 650i is a mid 13 second car in the quarter mile, trapping about 103 mph, so it's reasonable to assume that the 335i will run the same times. Oh, and the automatic is just a tenth of a second slower (0-1000 m).
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Every indication is that this car will be at or below the BMW numbers. I agree that standing 0-60 is a silly number to dwell on; for daily driving I am more interested in passing speeds (30-50, 50-70, 50-100 etc..); cars with a lot of torque down low can suffer in standing start times, but excel in rolling times (look at the recent Z06/997/430 comparo).
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http://www.autoworld.com.my/emzine/r...=RT.ATC.CAR.PV
Looks like a media darling already.
"Overall, the BMW 335i Coupe is a great car to drive, and I am sure that it will be a pleasure to own. I enjoyed the time I spent with it tremendously, and would not discourage anyone from getting one."
Looks like a media darling already.
"Overall, the BMW 335i Coupe is a great car to drive, and I am sure that it will be a pleasure to own. I enjoyed the time I spent with it tremendously, and would not discourage anyone from getting one."
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Love it, except the dash.
Where's the Supra fans that want a modern twin turbo inline-6? Here it is!
Where's the Supra fans that want a modern twin turbo inline-6?
Here it is!
but I can imagine it'll have good potential upto about 400bhp, question is what can the tranny handle?
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Originally Posted by picus
Every indication is that this car will be at or below the BMW numbers. I agree that standing 0-60 is a silly number to dwell on; for daily driving I am more interested in passing speeds (30-50, 50-70, 50-100 etc..); cars with a lot of torque down low can suffer in standing start times, but excel in rolling times (look at the recent Z06/997/430 comparo).