Hey now. Respect the garage crocs, I have a blue pair

 

That"s why I come here to see what ya'll are using.
Only because I'm a sucker for snake oil in a fancy can. Lol

At least here I can see feedback from real users of the products.

 

Its the wild wild west of products. Upto X number of years, this product sticks to the windows, this product was designed with this new age molecule....

Meanwhile most detailers are buying P&S products by the 5 gallon drum, or superior product purple fury, etc.

Long term I would like to find a one stop product with a bit more foaming potential. ONR was the OG, and I know of some friends who use their rinseless wash product in different dilutions for almost every home car detailing as designed. We need more of that. Make detailing simple so everyone does it, rather then you need multiple products to detail your daily driver weekly or bi monthly.

 

Haha. ,my carwashin' crocs.

Well, professional detailers and detailing for a hobby are different. Detailing professionally you have to think about cost etc, I try new products because its fun. Cleaning my cars with the same products over and over again isn't as fun. I'm not interested in hype or longevity etc but I just like trying new stuff.

ONR is a good example of a product that was great but now is just okay, there are several dramatically better rinseless washes out there today. You can use many products for multiple things, but again whats the fun in that?

 

Fair enough. For me, detailing isn’t a hobby it’s a routine chore I have to fit into a busy schedule so I’m not driving a dirty car or one coated in chemical residues that can damage the paint, and I value solutions that save both time and money. I respect influencers who started as professional detailers and share real techniques and tips to avoid common pitfalls, and I’d like practical instruction on technique, time‑saving methods, and how to minimize mistakes; instead we often get contradictory messaging “don’t use a brush, it scratches” followed by an ad for a new brush that “won’t scratch,” or warnings that micromarring comes from automated washes while those same creators insist you must wash and clay every time to avoid it. Lately those experienced voices seem drowned out by product‑first creators pushing edge‑case solutions and vague claims; the market increasingly looks like the supplement industry, where low barriers let anyone with an ad account promote miracle fixes without independent testing or regulation of any sort. In reality, reputable basics such as quality car shampoo, microfiber towels, polish, and a proven wax or paint sealant typically cost $10–$40 each and a basic kit runs about $50–$150 and will last months to years with normal use, whereas trendy influencer products and proprietary “nanotechnology” coatings often retail for $50–$300+ with limited long‑term data, so claims like “permanent protection” or “lifetime hydrophobicity” should be treated skeptically.

ONR has been good, but with their founders legal and health struggles their lineup has stagnated.

 

Have you looked at DIY Detail's YouTube channel and line of products? I think they would be up your alley.

If you like ONR try that Clean by Pan Rinseless Wash I linked towards the top of the thread. Dramatically better than ONR.

Its really pretty simple, there is no one way that fits all. Are there brushes that won't scratch? Yes. Will most brushes scratch? Yes. Do carwashes mar the paint? Yes. Do you have to clay every time you wash? No. In fact you shouldn't. Will any protection last forever? Of course not. Do some ceramic coatings last longer than others? Yes but the prep that goes into them is the most important factor in longevity. Do ceramic coatings last longer than any wax or sealant? Yes. Can you get 1-3 years out of a properly applied coating to a properly prepped surface with proper washing and maintenance of that coating? Yes. Once you have the basics down, the rest of it is just tools and chemicals to use at each step in the process.

I have found that by and large the "big name" stuff like Meguiars, Turtle Wax, etc etc is far surpassed by higher end/professional detailing products. The measure really isn't in durability its in ease and enjoyment of use and results.