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Old Apr 4, 2026 | 02:39 PM
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Its time to make a deal with everyones fav bowtie wearing mb dealer and his plethora of G580s ev lol.
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Old Apr 4, 2026 | 02:52 PM
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I don't think that will meet the size requirements.
He's looking at the EV9 and Ioniq. They are similar sizes
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Old Apr 4, 2026 | 05:13 PM
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I know it's an EV but did you see the Subaru Getaway? Their version of the new Highlander. Don't know it's timeline for availability though.

It comes with a super corny name
Yeah, it’s basically the new EV Toyota Highlander. I would get the Highlander. Don’t think it will be out in time.

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Its time to make a deal with everyones fav bowtie wearing mb dealer and his plethora of G580s ev lol.
Haha my wife actually made that joke
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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 08:46 AM
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I’m throwing my vote in here. I’m in FL and I saw a nice Lucid Gravity. It isn’t the best looking SUV because it looks like a minivan but your wife is used to driving minivans so… I thought this paint job with the black roof looked pretty good and sleek but it did look like the roof was short so not sure how that is for headroom/space. Last time I looked the range was the best and the incentives (at least on the Air) were great so I bet they still be good eventually on the Gravity.



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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 08:53 AM
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If it had a sliding rear door, lucid would have had a major success. Alas, the chase of cost and complexity ruins the fun.
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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 09:07 AM
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Recently been reading a lot of horror stories that the Lucid experience doesn't live up to the luxury car image it's trying to sell
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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 09:13 AM
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Yeah we will check out the Gravity, but I have heard bad things from an experience standpoint.
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Old Apr 5, 2026 | 03:36 PM
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Seems like just about all of these recent BEV-only companies that have started up (Tesla, Lucid, Fisker, Rivian, Faraday, etc...) have had numerous issues with either quality-control, dealer-experience, service, reliability problems, or problems just staying in business. I could go into the (possible) reasons why, but that might (?) be more speculation than actual reality.

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Old Apr 6, 2026 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Framestead
If it had a sliding rear door, lucid would have had a major success. Alas, the chase of cost and complexity ruins the fun.
Wait! If it had a sliding rear door, wouldn't it be considered a minivan and not the more popular SUV?
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Old Apr 7, 2026 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I’m throwing my vote in here. I’m in FL and I saw a nice Lucid Gravity. It isn’t the best looking SUV because it looks like a minivan but your wife is used to driving minivans so… I thought this paint job with the black roof looked pretty good and sleek but it did look like the roof was short so not sure how that is for headroom/space. Last time I looked the range was the best and the incentives (at least on the Air) were great so I bet they still be good eventually on the Gravity.
Am I wrong, or didn't you decide to lease your Plaid this time? If so, it will be interesting to see where used values are when your lease is up. Might be able to buy it at the end of the lease and sell it for more than the buyout if the fomo hype is still around.
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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 02:27 PM
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Drove some cars today and looked at a few without driving them.

1. Lucid Gravity. I don't like how these look, but from a space efficiency perspective its going to be hard to beat, its the closest to what we have now spacewise. Drives well, firm but nice riding, quiet. Interior build and materials is very good, tech seemed quite good. Balances "EV quirkyness" and practicality well, no opening roof nor sunshade, use the steering wheel controls to adjust wheel and mirrors buy does have a physical gearshift and turn signal. My wife will absolutely love it, wouldn't be my choice. Some odd things like the motor that moves the second row to access the third row sounds very loud and low rent. HATE the square steering wheel. So awkward feeling.





In the third row positioned for me to sit comfortably in the second row behind me driving in the first row.



Leases on these are better, lots of rebates. but still not great. Range would be a non issue at over 400 miles.

2. Cadillac Vistiq. I drove a low package Sport model, I love the style of these but sizewise I think it may be too tight in the rear. We need to be able to travel the 4 of us and the dog (so with the third row up) and have room for luggage, I think that might be tight. Drives well, but the build quality was a disappointment. Lots of cracking and clicking over bumps, I adjusted the air vent on the drivers side and that made a ton of nasty creaking plastic sounds. Really a shame for how nice the interior looks. Would like to think that would improve in a higher trim, but I'd be afraid it wouldn't. Want to try a higher trim that has the air suspension. Range is on the low end at 315 EPA.

Looked at but didn't drive:

1. Grand Highlander. These are seriously great inside, just great space, perfect in the second, third and behind that for luggage. I like it better than the TX inside and out. They didn't have any hybrid or hybrid MAX models or I would have driven one. Just a super nice well packaged vehicle, kudos to Toyota on that.

2. Toyota Sequoia. Less room behind the third row than the Grand Highlander and not as nice or as high quality feeling interior. Pass.

3. GLS450. Stopped by MB of Tysons Corner, they were closed but they had this very nice Emerald Green 2023 model with 15k miles for $69k.




So, will take my wife to see the Lucid and the Vistiq, but I think the Vistiq will be too small inside. She will love the Lucid but the lease isn't great. Keeps coming back to the GLS or the TX...will have her drive a Grand Highlander too.

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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 02:44 PM
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You have way too much passion and patience to be trying out so many cars, I'd just get something that more or less seems to fit my needs based on specs.
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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 03:12 PM
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What’s the fun in that?! I love shopping for new cars lol
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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Drove some cars today and looked at a few without driving them.

1. Lucid Gravity. I don't like how these look, but from a space efficiency perspective its going to be hard to beat, its the closest to what we have now spacewise. Drives well, firm but nice riding, quiet. Interior build and materials is very good, tech seemed quite good. Balances "EV quirkyness" and practicality well, no opening roof nor sunshade, use the steering wheel controls to adjust wheel and mirrors buy does have a physical gearshift and turn signal. My wife will absolutely love it, wouldn't be my choice. Some odd things like the motor that moves the second row to access the third row sounds very loud and low rent. HATE the square steering wheel. So awkward feeling.



I can see, from the photo there, that you were on Route 7 at Tysons, headed NW.........my own GM dealership is just a couple of blocks from there. I take it you had visited the Lucid Studio in the Tysons Mall?

Those squared-off steering wheels you dislike are not all that rare or unheard of. Some Chrysler products used them back in the early 1960s. A few other makes have used them now and then.. But, yes, they are unusual.



The one in the Cybertruck is even worse.....it is almost like an aircraft-yoke.



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Old Apr 12, 2026 | 03:42 PM
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if vistiq isn't big enough, how about lyriq?
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