You can believe what you want lol. We did have a Kia minivan, I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another Hyundai/Kia vehicle.

 

How does the quality of materials in the interior stack up between your Pacifica and the new Hundai/Kia suv/mini van?

Dollar for dollar?

 

You’re leaning towards a GLS…you’re not giving a Carnival a second look.

We will see what replaces the Pacifica when the time comes. I found twenty 2026 TX 550h+ nationwide. 😁 How many of those are actually unaccounted for

 

A whopping 20 units?
Oh yeah, I can see the dealer ADMs now. Lol

It won't be pretty.

 

The 2015 Kia Sedona we had was very nice, and had very nice quality materials. I would say on the whole it was nicer inside than the Pacificas, other than the latest one we have because its a Pinnacle with the upgraded leather and the suede headliner etc. The modern Carnival is not as solid inside as that Sedona but is comparable to a non-Pinnacle Pacifica.

Not buying another Minivan...we almost got a Carnival in 2023 and got the Pacifica again because of the PHEV. We also seriously considered a Telluride and Palisade. Hyundai/Kia doesn't make a PHEV in this space but we will consider an EV9.

The question was whether the stuff Jill posts would keep me from getting a Hyundai and the answer is no...it wouldn't.
Almost all of them are accounted for.

 

I’ve been looking around for a good deal on a black on black SC430 or a black LX470 once my GS300 sells. I’d settle for a black 1st generation Sequoia or third/fourth generation 4Runner too.

A used LC500 is always an option as well but it’s a far more expensive car to maintain and insure compared to my current batch of rides. Another option would be an NA MKIV Supra, late 80’s Monte Carlo SS, 90’s Impala SS, or C5/C6 Corvette. I need to get a shop or something to store anything pricey. I hate having to keep half of my cars outside.

 

Went and looked at an RX350L yesterday. Steve, you were right. My 6y/o cant sit in the 3rd row with her feet on the floor unless the 2nd row is all the way forward, which makes it virtually impossible for an adult to sit in the 2nd row. We decided to just look for a regular RX and she will buy a Pilot when we replace her CRV. The Pilots have a much more useable 3rd row.

This makes my search much easier, and, given my budget, expands into the 22+ RX's as well. So I will be able to buy newer and keep around longer.

 

Yeah the third row is awful!

 

When I was at the dealer buying my GS a few years ago, I told my (long time) salesman that we bought a Highlander because we wanted a usable 3rd row. He noted that they now had an RX-L with the third row but I told him it was too compromised. He said it was the same as the Highlander's but it just isn't. I can sit in our Highlander's third row, but I cannot sit in the RX-L's third row.

 

Ask your guy to sit in the third row and decide for himself LOL...

 

I mean its laughable. Like, why even have it at that point. It's like the back seat in an IS350C or SC430

 

Thats exactly what I said!

 

It's just Marketing. Yeah, we have a third row too.

 

Dealers were CLAMORING for a three row because they were losing sales, and the RX-L was a stopgap measure. The TX has an excellent third row.

 

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Originally Posted by SW17LS

Dealers were CLAMORING for a three row because they were losing sales, and the RX-L was a stopgap measure. The TX has an excellent third row.

We had a thread on this in Car Chat several years ago, when the first 3-row RX came out. Lexus, at the time, took the easy way out when they decided to add the third-row inside. Instead of extending and revising the chassis/unibody to adequately-contain the new seat, the designers basically just juggled things around inside, moved the second row a little, and more or less crammed the third seat inside the existing space. Good for the shareholders....not-so-good for RX owners and/or adults or older kids who have to sit back there.