So has anyone been paying attention to used car trade in/retail values of gas guzzlerzz Both used and new?

So far no knee jerk reactions, but i do see stellantis pay your sales tax on some models but nothing insane.
Evs have gotten magical 7500 discounts like honda.

RRs is doing price protection....for our 1%ers

 

I haven't seen a breakdown that specifically targeted gas guzzlers but Edmunds recently released that 30% of new car buyers are underwater.

I can't imagine diesel truck sales are too hot right now.

 

No, not really. I complained about it like I'm complaining about it now. I knew then it would go back down, too, because back then the country was not fossil fuel friendly and I knew that was gonna be a disaster. I didn't rush to the Tesla dealer to buy an EV.

Exactly, that's all I was ever saying.

They'll come down a lot faster than you think.

 

I would happily drive it and pay $6 a gallon. You can go ahead and calculate the fuel cost and throw it in my face, please, I don't care. Again, did you see me bitching about getting rid of all my V8s when it was $5 a couple years ago? No. Bc it wasn't permanent then and it isn't now either.

And while I understand what you're saying about mounting bills, if it started to affect my life I'd just eat out less or not order $50 of pizza every Friday...

 

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LC500h enters the chat ​​​​​​​

 

Oh man SW17Ls is challenging you for a funtime!

Get that V! The ultimate v8!

 

Lol. What if I really did that haha, talk about next level. It would have to be the pre refresh, they ruined the interior with the huge screen and, like with the Yukon and Tahoe, fixed something that wasn't broken exterior style-wise.

And as much as I'd like to do that, I think the LC500 convertible is a better choice. We already have 2 SUVs and the Denali with the 6.2 is hardly a slouch.

We want a car to drive cross country, take like a month vacation. I'd lovvvvvvvve to do that with the Merc (I wish I had it in Vegas just to cruise the strip with it) but don't want the miles on it. LC500 I won't give a **** about piling miles on, it's a modern Lexus with an OLD NA V8 and collector/classic car wise the Mercedes is better.

 

710 mi is pretty impressive. The hybrid just doesn't suit the spirit of what the LC is.

710 is more than double the mileage in my IS 500. They have very small gas tanks. 350 mi is about the max I could get with a full tank.

 

They sold like 13 LC500 hybrids. Another terrible waste of money.

 

Yea a hybrid LC made no sense. You're being generous with 13.

 

if Lexus would have made the LC available with the current V8 set up where is loud and raunchy as well as a more subdued version with V8+hybrid like they did in the LS600 Lexus would have had a winner. Lexus made mistake

 

I would imagine deals could be made on diesels right now.

That total mileage is impressive.

Too bad the LC500 exist. No one in their right mind would pick the LC500h over the NA V8​​​​​​​

 

BTW I drive way more than you think I do just for the record, about 12,000 miles a year easy. I feel the pinch too.

I don't have all that. You should pay car payments and then keep the car instead of leasing instead of just turning cars in. Is having what you have worth $2500 a month? That's a shitload of money for a rent payment, even if you have the income you do. Some people don't want kids, lots don't. It's about a 50/50 mix with our group of friends. Now we are all too old to have kids, I mean do 44 year old women get pregnant?

We all dropped a fortune in Vegas shopping, and the trip was very expensive but -- and I can't take credit for this -- my very bff since age 8 and who can give perspective better than anyone -- pointed this out. "Yeah, this costs a lot but it's cheaper than daycare. It's cheaper than diapers. It's cheaper than college tuition. It's cheaper than medical care for kids. It's cheaper than private school tuition. It's cheaper than feeding kids and their wardrobes and toys." She kept gong on. Not to take ANYTHING away from parents and parenting (and the friends' kids I love) but it's a vastly different life financially.

My friend ain't wrong.

So I guess my response to this is I agree, it does depend on individual circumstances. Which is all that's really been said in general?? You have mounting bills that are just a part of life. We have low overhead, no children, paid for cars, live in a ridiculously low tax state, and our income just jumped up alottttttt over the last year or so. I won't ever have to financially support my Mother or Father (divorced). Our house payment is a joke for being worth what it is. Money just piles up blindingly fast when you have a six figure household income, and where the first number isn't 1 either. Not trying to brag, just to give you some perspective, I love kids and hate that I can't pass anything down to any. Can't take it with you so yeah if I had a $1000 fuel bill per month who gives a ****. We already eat it in gas anyway just by going out on the lake. Dock fuel, GOD ONLY KNOWS what it is right now. I don't even wanna know lol. But we ain't selling the boat or changing our lifestyle bc of the dock fuel bill that gets debited every month, and never would.

 

Nothing screams "I don't understand what draws people to cars like this" than proposing taking the awesome V8 out of it and putting a boring *** V6 hybrid in it.

 

Well, need to think about that for a bit, there was one person

That is just 17 (5 min) fill ups if one owns a LC500h…total time at the gas station is 85 mins for the year. Gas cars ain’t going anywhere.