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And those vehicles are all on dedicated luxury platforms that aren't just FWD Toyotas with leather seats.
Yup!
Like I said before I have no issue with the FWD Toyota models, but they should ALSO offer vehicles that compete with those players. GA-L is a great platform, no reason why we can't have more vehicles on it.
all this 'choice' with 4, 6, 8, whatever cylinders, hybrids, phev's, are all just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. it will be over in a few years.
I commend BMW and MB for giving customers choices. The GLE can be had in a 4 cyl, 6 cyl and an 8 cyl, X5 in 6 and 8. Both have excellent PHEV options also. Choice of powertrain doesn't limit options either, can spec a GLE350 same as a GLE580.
Plus, with BMW and maybe MB too not sure, they make it seamless to special order a car or SUV and get just what you want.
all this 'choice' with 4, 6, 8, whatever cylinders, hybrids, phev's, are all just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. it will be over in a few years.
Yeah, energy in vs energy out is a law of physics after all. Raw fuels and nuclear always win
Same reason solar is useless, energy in vs energy out payout never happens in most cases. Nice to own as an individual though that's for sure
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all this 'choice' with 4, 6, 8, whatever cylinders, hybrids, phev's, are all just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. it will be over in a few years.
ICE engines aren't going anywhere anytime soon...and we will also have EV options in very similar looking models. So lots of options. Like with the 7 Series you can get an EV, a PHEV, an I6 and a V8 all in the same car.
Originally Posted by LexBob2
Plus, with BMW and maybe MB too not sure, they make it seamless to special order a car or SUV and get just what you want.
Yep, options are a true luxury. MB isn't as easy as BMW but much easier than Lexus
ICE engines aren't going anywhere anytime soon...and we will also have EV options in very similar looking models. So lots of options. Like with the 7 Series you can get an EV, a PHEV, an I6 and a V8 all in the same car.
Yep, options are a true luxury. MB isn't as easy as BMW but much easier than Lexus
all this 'choice' with 4, 6, 8, whatever cylinders, hybrids, phev's, are all just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. it will be over in a few years.
You seem to have a negative view on anything that isn't just getting onboard with Tesla now, like everybody still choosing legacy automakers or ICE propulsion are backwards.
all this 'choice' with 4, 6, 8, whatever cylinders, hybrids, phev's, are all just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. it will be over in a few years.
With V8s revamping/coming back with the addition of hybrids???
You my fiend may be on a boat held together by flex tape. It’s just a matter of time 🦈🩸
I couldn’t wait till December to pick up the IS 500 Ultimate Edition.😁
Congrats man! I don't care that some folks have moved on from Lexus, everyone can have their own opinion I don't lose sleep over it. Lexus works best for my family and I. Seven Lexus's in a row now, the newest being my moms 2024 NX 350h, my sisters 2025 RX 350h in beautiful Nori Green, and my 2025 IS 500 one of the last USB 2.0s to roll off the line
Congrats man! I don't care that some folks have moved on from Lexus, everyone can have their own opinion I don't lose sleep over it. Lexus works best for my family and I. Seven Lexus's in a row now, the newest being my moms 2024 NX 350h, my sisters 2025 RX 350h in beautiful Nori Green, and my 2025 IS 500 one of the last USB 2.0s to roll off the line
Here’s a question for you, when the IS is gone, will you still buy a Lexus for yourself? The IS is one of the last proper premium Lexus models left.
Going to one of the only other properly premium Lexus models.
You decide to get an NX or RX for yourself and we’ll talk lol
I wouldn’t mind the NX or RX, the hybrid versions my family members own are comfortable vehicles. I just wish they offered a massage seat option like the GX does!
Congrats man! I don't care that some folks have moved on from Lexus, everyone can have their own opinion I don't lose sleep over it. Lexus works best for my family and I. Seven Lexus's in a row now, the newest being my moms 2024 NX 350h, my sisters 2025 RX 350h in beautiful Nori Green, and my 2025 IS 500 one of the last USB 2.0s to roll off the line
Thanks Hoovey! I feel the same about Lexus as you do. They just work for me and feel like home. You got a beautiful IS 500! Love the color! I realize it's not for everybody, but it's my perfect car. We are lucky to have our IS 500's
I don't care that some folks have moved on from Lexus, everyone can have their own opinion I don't lose sleep over it. Lexus works best for my family and I. Seven Lexus's in a row now, the newest being my moms 2024 NX 350h, my sisters 2025 RX 350h in beautiful Nori Green, and my 2025 IS 500 one of the last USB 2.0s to roll off the line 
