Compelling perspective for PHEVs vs BEVs…
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I charged to about 100 percent before heading to my aunts house, I had about 70 percent when we arrived. Because the Y is so efficient, that was all I needed. Before we left for home, I charged to about 40 percent, which was plenty to get to the superchargers. I plugged in for about an hour, took a walk and then headed back to my aunts, then headed home. I basically took the opportunity to get out and walk around, as you can see it's a very beautiful area
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I'm not going all electric any time soon. I'm just not. Too many scenarios where charging is a pain. BUT..I could feasilby get rid of our ice RX and replace it with a PHEV SUV. All electric does perform better, but in a family SUV, I don't really need the ultimate performance. PHEV would probably perform better than the current ice RX most of the time. So, it would still be an upgrade.
Plus, my wife ain't dealing with charging at home or on the road. She is perfectly fine and comfortable with ice. A PHEV would work for her when she needs to drive it. She would be annoyed with a BEV, and in turn, annoy me.
Plus, my wife ain't dealing with charging at home or on the road. She is perfectly fine and comfortable with ice. A PHEV would work for her when she needs to drive it. She would be annoyed with a BEV, and in turn, annoy me.
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I charged to about 100 percent before heading to my aunts house, I had about 70 percent when we arrived. Because the Y is so efficient, that was all I needed. Before we left for home, I charged to about 40 percent, which was plenty to get to the superchargers. I plugged in for about an hour, took a walk and then headed back to my aunts, then headed home. I basically took the opportunity to get out and walk around, as you can see it's a very beautiful area
Even with that I might make that swap just to get the day to day enjoyment of an EV, but if a PHEV can give me most of that enjoyment day to day and also make that stopping unnecessary when traveling...thats attractive. I think most of the EV adopters that are left don't want an EV enough to take on that travel situation...which makes PHEVs an easier sell.
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I'm not going all electric any time soon. I'm just not. Too many scenarios where charging is a pain. BUT..I could feasilby get rid of our ice RX and replace it with a PHEV SUV. All electric does perform better, but in a family SUV, I don't really need the ultimate performance. PHEV would probably perform better than the current ice RX most of the time. So, it would still be an upgrade.
Plus, my wife ain't dealing with charging at home or on the road. She is perfectly fine and comfortable with ice. A PHEV would work for her when she needs to drive it. She would be annoyed with a BEV, and in turn, annoy me.
Plus, my wife ain't dealing with charging at home or on the road. She is perfectly fine and comfortable with ice. A PHEV would work for her when she needs to drive it. She would be annoyed with a BEV, and in turn, annoy me.
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Did you have to charge on the trip or was the trip only 30% of the car's battery? If the trip only used 30% of the car's battery that's a different situation. I'm traveling 350 miles away to a rural place without charging locally. I have to stop and charge at some point just to get there, and to have charge to drive around there I would have to stop in Beckley and charge again, so that would add ~ 50 min to an hour to the trip. then on the way back if I left with less than 80% charge I would have to stop twice on the way back too. Thats one thing if I did that once a year but I do it 3-4 times a year.
Even with that I might make that swap just to get the day to day enjoyment of an EV, but if a PHEV can give me most of that enjoyment day to day and also make that stopping unnecessary when traveling...thats attractive. I think most of the EV adopters that are left don't want an EV enough to take on that travel situation...which makes PHEVs an easier sell.
Even with that I might make that swap just to get the day to day enjoyment of an EV, but if a PHEV can give me most of that enjoyment day to day and also make that stopping unnecessary when traveling...thats attractive. I think most of the EV adopters that are left don't want an EV enough to take on that travel situation...which makes PHEVs an easier sell.
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Ocean City I would park it one night at a Level 2 charger across the street towards the end of the trip and it would be fine. Going to NJ plenty of charging, but that trip to WV is still tough.
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Who has said in this thread they don't like EVs? Certainly not me.
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PHEVs are EVs...they're just both an EV and an ICE car.
I am on record saying repeatedly I love EVs, but full EV adoption requires a commitment for many people that they aren't totally able or willing to make. PHEVs require much less commitment.
I am on record saying repeatedly I love EVs, but full EV adoption requires a commitment for many people that they aren't totally able or willing to make. PHEVs require much less commitment.
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You've used that term a few times now, blissfully unaware of the irony that the only one clearly, obviously and pathetically "virtue signalling" is you.
