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Can Elon possibly expect his AI to be good enough that it can see with eyes like a conscious being?
As in, the cameras are the eyes and AI is processing what it "sees" it can drive autonomously?
I realize just like us humans, we relay on hearing and other senses to navigate our surroundings so other "sensors" may be needed to fill in what the eyes can't see.
Awesome write up @AMIRZA786 .
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FSD has the ability to listen for example to emergency sirens but from what I can gather it is not fully implemented yet, or maybe never. A curious thing about FSD is what you see on screen seems to be interpreted meaning the visuals are not necessarily what the computer is actually reacting to.
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Or die trying, but yes.
The English dub is hilarious.
https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1895161243675345055
The English dub is hilarious.
https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1895161243675345055
That's a driver judgement call.
Or should it?
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FSD has the ability to listen for example to emergency sirens but from what I can gather it is not fully implemented yet, or maybe never. A curious thing about FSD is what you see on screen seems to be interpreted meaning the visuals are not necessarily what the computer is actually reacting to.
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yes, they use to also use radar/ultrasonic sensors but phased them out when they concluded they could do it all with regular cameras. i still have my doubts especially in foul conditions, but then maybe no car with no matter how many sensors should be trying to self drive in foul weather.
absolutely. human eyes are incredible but remember a tesla has more than 2 eyes.
absolutely. here... watch the car do it and you can also see how on the center screen it shows what IT sees, the other vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, etc.
https://youtu.be/TUDiG7PcLBs
interesting thought. i don't think teslas or any others using hearing, but maybe some day.
agreed, thanks for taking the time to do that amirza786!
absolutely. human eyes are incredible but remember a tesla has more than 2 eyes.
absolutely. here... watch the car do it and you can also see how on the center screen it shows what IT sees, the other vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, etc.
https://youtu.be/TUDiG7PcLBs
interesting thought. i don't think teslas or any others using hearing, but maybe some day.
agreed, thanks for taking the time to do that amirza786!
Unfortunately no legacy or startup wants to partner with them outside of a testing platform partnership for reasons left to speculation.
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absolutely. here... watch the car do it and you can also see how on the center screen it shows what IT sees, the other vehicles, pedestrians, cyclists, etc.
https://youtu.be/TUDiG7PcLBs
https://youtu.be/TUDiG7PcLBs
If it can do this on roads that it's never been on, that could be argued to be real AI.
Versus what I call fake AI and clever tricks. Lol
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"the cup of kings"
not that kind of king. oops.
This is pretty neat I like how the casting is designed to break in sections, sorta cube like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj8WaL5CcU
not that kind of king. oops.
This is pretty neat I like how the casting is designed to break in sections, sorta cube like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzj8WaL5CcU
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All AI is fake it's just a matter of how convincing it is. I had a discussion with Grok about this, the AI admitted it doesn't actually know anything lol. But at the same time it's incredibly effective at bouncing ideas off of, far far better than any person unless you happen to be friends with a top 10 smartest person on the planet. And even if you were, have to deal with a persons current mood AI doesn't have this problem.
Here's another conversation I had with Grok, there is no way I could ever get this kind of response from a person, certainly not anyone I know.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/YC29Ss7caAtQqrj2zjDXebmDt
Not exactly sure how the above AI will be integrated into a car but I know it will be and it will be amazing.
Here's another conversation I had with Grok, there is no way I could ever get this kind of response from a person, certainly not anyone I know.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/YC29Ss7caAtQqrj2zjDXebmDt
Not exactly sure how the above AI will be integrated into a car but I know it will be and it will be amazing.
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what do you mean by fake? ai is doing real work already for millions of people. is it always right? of course not, but it keeps getting better.
is it 'fake' when a chess program beats a human chess master? no, it just knows how to play great chess.
one could argue humans are at least as 'fake'
humans can drive but most not very well, lol. the bar is pretty low really for self-driving ai.
is it 'fake' when a chess program beats a human chess master? no, it just knows how to play great chess.
one could argue humans are at least as 'fake'
humans can drive but most not very well, lol. the bar is pretty low really for self-driving ai.
Here's another conversation I had with Grok, there is no way I could ever get this kind of response from a person, certainly not anyone I know.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/YC29Ss7caAtQqrj2zjDXebmDt
Not exactly sure how the above AI will be integrated into a car but I know it will be and it will be amazing.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/YC29Ss7caAtQqrj2zjDXebmDt
Not exactly sure how the above AI will be integrated into a car but I know it will be and it will be amazing.
ever read any richard dawkins' books? i enjoyed 'climbing mount improbable'.